***Official 2024 Draft Thread!!***

[Snake]

It appears that Wilson still has the same issues at Florida State that he had at Arizona State, when I was following him.

unfamiliar with Arizona Johnny.. FSU Johnny is limited route running and extremely questionable hands.. I'd say he's soft too, but that might be a judgmental take, so I'll exclude that.

The hands were a big problem at ASU too. Lots of talk of moving him to TE.

[Backside]

ESPN Mock:

Chicago Bears (via CAR) - Caleb Williams, QB, USC

Washington Commanders - Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina

New England Patriots - Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU

Arizona Cardinals - Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State

Los Angeles Chargers - Malik Nabers, WR, LSU

New York Giants - Rome Odunze, WR, Washington

Tennessee Titans - Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame

Atlanta Falcons - Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA

Chicago Bears - Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama

New York Jets - Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT, Penn State

Minnesota Vikings - Jer'Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois

Denver Broncos - J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan

Las Vegas Raiders - Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama

New Orleans Saints - JC Latham, OT, Alabama

Indianapolis Colts - Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia

Seattle Seahawks - Troy Fautanu, G, Washington

Jacksonville Jaguars - Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State

Cincinnati Bengals - Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia

Green Bay Packers - Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State

Pittsburgh Steelers - Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon State

Arizona Cardinals (via HOU) - Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama

Los Angeles Rams - Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma

Miami Dolphins - Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Kansas City Chiefs - Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU

Houston Texans (via CLE) - Byron Murphy II, DT, Texas

Philadelphia Eagles - Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa

Detroit Lions - Bralen Trice, EDGE, Washington

Buffalo Bills - Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas

Dallas Cowboys - Graham Barton, C, Duke

Baltimore Ravens - Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State

San Francisco 49ers - Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo


That is very early for JJ. But that would be a pretty intriguing pairing with Peyton.

[Snake]

PFF has the first four picks as the same

[Backside]

PFF has the first four picks as the same

Three worthy top QBs and an all timer WR prospect. Wouldn't shock me if that top 4 is set in stone from today until draft day.

[mdb1958]

ESPN Mock:

Chicago Bears (via CAR) - Caleb Williams, QB, USC

Washington Commanders - Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina

New England Patriots - Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU

Arizona Cardinals - Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State

Los Angeles Chargers - Malik Nabers, WR, LSU

New York Giants - Rome Odunze, WR, Washington

Tennessee Titans - Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame

Atlanta Falcons - Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA

Chicago Bears - Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama

New York Jets - Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT, Penn State

Minnesota Vikings - Jer'Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois

Denver Broncos - J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan

Las Vegas Raiders - Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama

New Orleans Saints - JC Latham, OT, Alabama

Indianapolis Colts - Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia

Seattle Seahawks - Troy Fautanu, G, Washington

Jacksonville Jaguars - Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State

Cincinnati Bengals - Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia

Green Bay Packers - Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State

Pittsburgh Steelers - Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon State

Arizona Cardinals (via HOU) - Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama

Los Angeles Rams - Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma

Miami Dolphins - Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Kansas City Chiefs - Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU

Houston Texans (via CLE) - Byron Murphy II, DT, Texas

Philadelphia Eagles - Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa

Detroit Lions - Bralen Trice, EDGE, Washington

Buffalo Bills - Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas

Dallas Cowboys - Graham Barton, C, Duke

Baltimore Ravens - Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State

San Francisco 49ers - Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo


That is very early for JJ. But that would be a pretty intriguing pairing with Peyton.

How does Jared Verse compare to Will Anderson?

[Phantom]

Marvin Harrison Jr has declared for the NFL draft

[Phantom]

....

[Phantom]

See

[mdb1958]

200 yard a game average.


https://illinoiscollegeathletics.com/sp ... stein/7166

[mdb1958]

Marvin Harrison Jr has declared for the NFL draft

Did Hayden Hatten declare?

[mdb1958]

32.3 yards per reception in 2023

https://almascots.com/sports/football/r ... nchko/9410

[mdb1958]

When looking at the top WR's in the draft I like to look at the amount of targets they didnt catch. It can play a role in keeping the offense on the field.

I See Brian Thomas doing well that way, also Xavier Leggett and they both will attack the middle of the field. Either will be a high cost and that is when the search begins.

Catching everything thrown your way can make you a big name very quickly.

[mdb1958]

For all of you internet search specialists - just how fast is Jalen Coker?


https://goholycross.com/sports/football ... oker/14006

[Phantom]

JJ McCarthy has declared for the NFL Draft..

[Cheb]

JJ McCarthy has declared for the NFL Draft..

We all saw that one coming. Great college career, and seems like a genuinely good dude. It'll be interesting to see how he does as a pro.

[Snake]

JJ McCarthy has declared for the NFL Draft..

We all saw that one coming. Great college career, and seems like a genuinely good dude. It'll be interesting to see how he does as a pro.

One of the more interesting case studies in some time.

Major extrapolations have to be made. When his team has led 97% of his mins as a starter.

[real bucs fan]

With the D so heavily invested and playing well, and Baker looking like the man at QB…

I think the priority this offseason is building up the interior OL and getting a run game going. Our O has looked good despite Canales wanting to be a running team and our run game abysmal. If we can get a running game, look out. Wouldn’t mind hammering interior OL with our first two picks, and wouldn’t hate bringing in a big back like Braelan Allen to compliment White in round 3.

[Cheb]

Assuming we keep our big free agents home and roughly the same staff, my list of priorities looks something like:

- A strong safety who is worthy of a NFL roster spot, who can shore up our pass defense and compliment Antoine Winfield Jr
- A left guard who is an actual guard (!) who can open up holes in the running game and manage his own work as a pass blocker.

Lesser priority:
- A big-bodied running back who can help take the load off of White, and most importantly has the size and strength to withstand interior runs on a regular basis, given how much we seem to love doing that.

It would be nice to have:
- A developmental insurance QB (Tua's little brother maybe?)
- A developmental nose tackle to take over for Greg Gaines, who I doubt we resign.

That's a decent shopping list at this point, anyways.

[Terry Tate]

Assuming we keep our big free agents home and roughly the same staff, my list of priorities looks something like:

- A strong safety who is worthy of a NFL roster spot, who can shore up our pass defense and compliment Antoine Winfield Jr
- A left guard who is an actual guard (!) who can open up holes in the running game and manage his own work as a pass blocker.

Lesser priority:
- A big-bodied running back who can help take the load off of White, and most importantly has the size and strength to withstand interior runs on a regular basis, given how much we seem to love doing that.

It would be nice to have:
- A developmental insurance QB (Tua's little brother maybe?)
- A developmental nose tackle to take over for Greg Gaines, who I doubt we resign.

That's a decent shopping list at this point, anyways.

I see things the exact same way with one exception. I don't think we resign White. He's going to want monster cash and I don't see us giving it to him. The only way we resign him is if the market is ice cold and we get him far cheaper than he wants.

So, assuming White is gone, I see ILB as a need. As much as I love LVD, he's getting up there and older guys get hurt. I want his running mate and eventual successor.

[mdb1958]

ESPN Mock:

Chicago Bears (via CAR) - Caleb Williams, QB, USC

Washington Commanders - Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina

New England Patriots - Jayden Daniels, QB, LSU

Arizona Cardinals - Marvin Harrison Jr., WR, Ohio State

Los Angeles Chargers - Malik Nabers, WR, LSU

New York Giants - Rome Odunze, WR, Washington

Tennessee Titans - Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame

Atlanta Falcons - Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA

Chicago Bears - Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama

New York Jets - Olumuyiwa Fashanu, OT, Penn State

Minnesota Vikings - Jer'Zhan Newton, DT, Illinois

Denver Broncos - J.J. McCarthy, QB, Michigan

Las Vegas Raiders - Kool-Aid McKinstry, CB, Alabama

New Orleans Saints - JC Latham, OT, Alabama

Indianapolis Colts - Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia

Seattle Seahawks - Troy Fautanu, G, Washington

Jacksonville Jaguars - Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State

Cincinnati Bengals - Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia

Green Bay Packers - Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson

Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State

Pittsburgh Steelers - Taliese Fuaga, OT, Oregon State

Arizona Cardinals (via HOU) - Terrion Arnold, CB, Alabama

Los Angeles Rams - Tyler Guyton, OT, Oklahoma

Miami Dolphins - Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Kansas City Chiefs - Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU

Houston Texans (via CLE) - Byron Murphy II, DT, Texas

Philadelphia Eagles - Cooper DeJean, CB, Iowa

Detroit Lions - Bralen Trice, EDGE, Washington

Buffalo Bills - Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas

Dallas Cowboys - Graham Barton, C, Duke

Baltimore Ravens - Chop Robinson, EDGE, Penn State

San Francisco 49ers - Quinyon Mitchell, CB, Toledo


That is very early for JJ. But that would be a pretty intriguing pairing with Peyton.

How does Jared Verse compare to Will Anderson?

Anyone?

[Grahamburn]

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl ... -big-board

[mdb1958]

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl ... -big-board

That is our 1st and 2nd round - who ya got?

[Cheb]

Assuming we keep our big free agents home and roughly the same staff, my list of priorities looks something like:

- A strong safety who is worthy of a NFL roster spot, who can shore up our pass defense and compliment Antoine Winfield Jr
- A left guard who is an actual guard (!) who can open up holes in the running game and manage his own work as a pass blocker.

Lesser priority:
- A big-bodied running back who can help take the load off of White, and most importantly has the size and strength to withstand interior runs on a regular basis, given how much we seem to love doing that.

It would be nice to have:
- A developmental insurance QB (Tua's little brother maybe?)
- A developmental nose tackle to take over for Greg Gaines, who I doubt we resign.

That's a decent shopping list at this point, anyways.

I see things the exact same way with one exception. I don't think we resign White. He's going to want monster cash and I don't see us giving it to him. The only way we resign him is if the market is ice cold and we get him far cheaper than he wants.

So, assuming White is gone, I see ILB as a need. As much as I love LVD, he's getting up there and older guys get hurt. I want his running mate and eventual successor.

I thought similar things, but KJ Britt and SirVocea Dennis have both played fine in relief, especially Britt. A depth inside backer would be nice I suppose, but I wouldn't put it as a top priority.

[Cheb]

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl ... -big-board

That is our 1st and 2nd round - who ya got?

We are currently projected to have the 26th pick and 57th picks in the draft.

Assuming that's how the board looks, I'm taking Kamren Kitchens from Miami for my new strong safety at 26th overall, followed by Jonathan Brooks at 57 overall, the running back from Texas.

[Grahamburn]

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl ... -big-board

That is our 1st and 2nd round - who ya got?

Licht loves his Huskies:

25. EDGE Bralen Trice, WASHINGTON

Trice's top-tier speed-to-power likely leaves opposing blockers sitting in post-game ice baths for longer than normal. He's also a strong run defender, to boot. He is still working on expanding his pass-rush moves, but his effort will never be in question.

This offense could use a little more athleticism in the TE room:

58. TE Ja'Tavion Sanders, TEXAS

Sanders is a former five-star recruit who brings a lot of athletic potential as a full-time tight end. He's still working on being more consistent with blocking, but his flashes there show he can be an in-line player and a slot receiver.

Address guard and safety (Jordan Whitehead return anyone?) in free agency.

[kaimaru]

Assuming we keep our big free agents home and roughly the same staff, my list of priorities looks something like:

- A strong safety who is worthy of a NFL roster spot, who can shore up our pass defense and compliment Antoine Winfield Jr
- A left guard who is an actual guard (!) who can open up holes in the running game and manage his own work as a pass blocker.

Lesser priority:
- A big-bodied running back who can help take the load off of White, and most importantly has the size and strength to withstand interior runs on a regular basis, given how much we seem to love doing that.

It would be nice to have:
- A developmental insurance QB (Tua's little brother maybe?)
- A developmental nose tackle to take over for Greg Gaines, who I doubt we resign.

That's a decent shopping list at this point, anyways.

Considering McCollum played at Strong Safety the last game and was practicing there for the last 6 weeks, maybe we will just transition him there next year

[Cheb]

Assuming we keep our big free agents home and roughly the same staff, my list of priorities looks something like:

- A strong safety who is worthy of a NFL roster spot, who can shore up our pass defense and compliment Antoine Winfield Jr
- A left guard who is an actual guard (!) who can open up holes in the running game and manage his own work as a pass blocker.

Lesser priority:
- A big-bodied running back who can help take the load off of White, and most importantly has the size and strength to withstand interior runs on a regular basis, given how much we seem to love doing that.

It would be nice to have:
- A developmental insurance QB (Tua's little brother maybe?)
- A developmental nose tackle to take over for Greg Gaines, who I doubt we resign.

That's a decent shopping list at this point, anyways.

Considering McCollum played at Strong Safety the last game and was practicing there for the last 6 weeks, maybe we will just transition him there next year

McCollum looked uncomfortable, flat-footed, and a bit lost at safety vs the Eagles to my eye. I'd keep him at corner, but I don't make these decisions.

[mdb1958]

Considering McCollum played at Strong Safety the last game and was practicing there for the last 6 weeks, maybe we will just transition him there next year

McCollum looked uncomfortable, flat-footed, and a bit lost at safety vs the Eagles to my eye. I'd keep him at corner, but I don't make these decisions.

Well sir look at your options

edit: for the Philly game.

[kaimaru]

Considering McCollum played at Strong Safety the last game and was practicing there for the last 6 weeks, maybe we will just transition him there next year

McCollum looked uncomfortable, flat-footed, and a bit lost at safety vs the Eagles to my eye. I'd keep him at corner, but I don't make these decisions.

He said in a interview that you move laterally at CB and downhill at S. He said that is the hardest part of playing S. You are complaining after what 18 practices part-time and no previous game action and you are pulling the plug on the experiment? You don't think and entire offseason he may look completely different? He is a good and willing tackler which is important at the SS position

[Cheb]

McCollum looked uncomfortable, flat-footed, and a bit lost at safety vs the Eagles to my eye. I'd keep him at corner, but I don't make these decisions.

He said in a interview that you move laterally at CB and downhill at S. He said that is the hardest part of playing S. You are complaining after what 18 practices part-time and no previous game action and you are pulling the plug on the experiment? You don't think and entire offseason he may look completely different? He is a good and willing tackler which is important at the SS position

I'm not complaining, just sharing my observations in regards to his play. And don't mistake those observations for not liking Zyon McCollum as a player -- I think he's great and provided us with very quality play in relief duty at corner this year, so good in fact that when Davis and/or Dean went out with injury, Zyon stepped in at either spot and we didn't miss a beat.

I'm just saying he looked really good at corner, it's harder to find good corners than it is to find good safeties, and maybe the time to experiment with position changes isn't in the playoffs.

But again, I don't make these decisions, and I trust Bowles on where best to put his DBs. But even then, the man isn't infallible, just look at the Winfield experiment at slot corner last year.

[Terry Tate]

He said in a interview that you move laterally at CB and downhill at S. He said that is the hardest part of playing S. You are complaining after what 18 practices part-time and no previous game action and you are pulling the plug on the experiment? You don't think and entire offseason he may look completely different? He is a good and willing tackler which is important at the SS position

I'm not complaining, just sharing my observations in regards to his play. And don't mistake those observations for not liking Zyon McCollum as a player -- I think he's great and provided us with very quality play in relief duty at corner this year, so good in fact that when Davis and/or Dean went out with injury, Zyon stepped in at either spot and we didn't miss a beat.

I'm just saying he looked really good at corner, it's harder to find good corners than it is to find good safeties, and maybe the time to experiment with position changes isn't in the playoffs.

But again, I don't make these decisions, and I trust Bowles on where best to put his DBs. But even then, the man isn't infallible, just look at the Winfield experiment at slot corner last year.

Agreed. Plus, corners are not only harder to find you also need more of them. Many teams have third and even fourth WR's with skills. It's not a bad idea to take a corner somewhere in the draft pretty much every year. A deep corner room is always good and you might just find a late round home run.

[mdb1958]

Valued functional skill sets. Now throw in another player that can do the same thing from this upcoming draft.

[Doctor]

He said in a interview that you move laterally at CB and downhill at S. He said that is the hardest part of playing S. You are complaining after what 18 practices part-time and no previous game action and you are pulling the plug on the experiment? You don't think and entire offseason he may look completely different? He is a good and willing tackler which is important at the SS position

I'm not complaining, just sharing my observations in regards to his play. And don't mistake those observations for not liking Zyon McCollum as a player -- I think he's great and provided us with very quality play in relief duty at corner this year, so good in fact that when Davis and/or Dean went out with injury, Zyon stepped in at either spot and we didn't miss a beat.

I'm just saying he looked really good at corner, it's harder to find good corners than it is to find good safeties, and maybe the time to experiment with position changes isn't in the playoffs.

But again, I don't make these decisions, and I trust Bowles on where best to put his DBs. But even then, the man isn't infallible, just look at the Winfield experiment at slot corner last year.

The way he spoke of it, it was less an experiment and more of a need to mask other deficiencies in the defense, particularly when injuries got bad.

But I agree with what you said.

[mdb1958]

McCollum looked uncomfortable, flat-footed, and a bit lost at safety vs the Eagles to my eye. I'd keep him at corner, but I don't make these decisions.

Well sir look at your options

edit: for the Philly game.

Or for the Lions game. McCollum was delivering hits when the muscles might not of been as tensed up as they should have been.
I'm trying to recall when I seen Buc defensive backs lay the wood like that. How many years and the players name, our starting corners have never had it.

[Bootz]

We officially pick 26th in the 1st round