***Official 2024 Draft Thread!!***

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Florida State WR Keon Coleman announced that he officially is declaring for draft
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Penn State edge rusher Adisa Isaac declares
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Vikings trade for Kyler Murray, Patriots land Marvin Harrison Jr. at No. 4


Troy Franklin WR to Bucs? I've never heard of him before.

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Ehhh rather take Verse there
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Cheb wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:00 am
Snake wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:46 pm Most mocks that I’m seeing now have Drake Maye going ahead of Caleb Williams…
Caleb Williams hasn't proved himself to be a mature person. Wanting an ownership stake of the team that drafts him is so unrealistic it beggars belief, and saying that he'd sit out the draft if he didn't like the teams likely to pick him looks petty at best.

And let's not forget that Caleb Williams is the first Heisman winner EVER who returned to school and didn't finish in the top 10 of the next season's Heisman vote.

And his team, USC, who is stacked with talent, barely limped to a 7-5 record. They lost to every ranked team on their schedule, and ended the season losing five of their final six games (their only win being a 1 point victory against Cal, who finished the season with a losing record).

Buyer beware.

Cheb, do any of these IDL's present themselves as answers for us? Gholston, O'Connor, Gaines, Deadrin do not seem to offer much.
I give a pass to Logan Hall just because he's 23 and learning to be something he wasnt.
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acmillis wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:46 am Ehhh rather take Verse there
I still like Verse. Don't care if he's falling.
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mdb1958 wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:36 am
Cheb wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:00 am

Caleb Williams hasn't proved himself to be a mature person. Wanting an ownership stake of the team that drafts him is so unrealistic it beggars belief, and saying that he'd sit out the draft if he didn't like the teams likely to pick him looks petty at best.

And let's not forget that Caleb Williams is the first Heisman winner EVER who returned to school and didn't finish in the top 10 of the next season's Heisman vote.

And his team, USC, who is stacked with talent, barely limped to a 7-5 record. They lost to every ranked team on their schedule, and ended the season losing five of their final six games (their only win being a 1 point victory against Cal, who finished the season with a losing record).

Buyer beware.

Cheb, do any of these IDL's present themselves as answers for us? Gholston, O'Connor, Gaines, Deadrin do not seem to offer much.
I give a pass to Logan Hall just because he's 23 and learning to be something he wasnt.
We have Vita Vea as our mainstay in the middle, Kancey was our first rounder, and Hall is still on his rookie deal.

Maybe we add a depth guy later, but I would imagine we choose to use our top draft picks for a more pressing need.
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Ex-Washington State QB Cam Ward declares for NFL Draft
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Cheb wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:24 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:36 am


Cheb, do any of these IDL's present themselves as answers for us? Gholston, O'Connor, Gaines, Deadrin do not seem to offer much.
I give a pass to Logan Hall just because he's 23 and learning to be something he wasnt.
We have Vita Vea as our mainstay in the middle, Kancey was our first rounder, and Hall is still on his rookie deal.

Maybe we add a depth guy later, but I would imagine we choose to use our top draft picks for a more pressing need.

Rank our pressing needs please.
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mdb1958 wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:41 am
Cheb wrote: Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:24 pm

We have Vita Vea as our mainstay in the middle, Kancey was our first rounder, and Hall is still on his rookie deal.

Maybe we add a depth guy later, but I would imagine we choose to use our top draft picks for a more pressing need.

Rank our pressing needs please.
It depends greatly on how we choose to allocate our free agency dollars, my dude. What are we going to do at QB, extend Baker, roll with Trask, sign a different veteran? What about high priority extensions for Evans and AWJ? How's the situation looking for Lavonte and Devin at linebacker?

We answer those questions, we will know a lot more.
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I just think how our defensive backfield goes is how well we work on the defensive LOS. Also Ryan Neal does not seem to work and I would love to hear the reason we keep using him. Is it possible that no hybrid safety would look good for us
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Georgia offensive tackle Amarius Mims declares as expected first-round pick
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Brock Bowers has declared for the NFL draft
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I don't think there was a single Otton target that didn't leave me saying "Bowers would kill in this scheme" all year.

I'm fully ready to OJ again if he should fall.
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T'Vondre Sweat - NFL force or do nothing Fatboy?
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Doctor wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:09 am I don't think there was a single Otton target that didn't leave me saying "Bowers would kill in this scheme" all year.

I'm fully ready to OJ again if he should fall.

Your stance is all over the place. I don't think it wise for him to play ball catching RB around the LOS, one of those big boys will Gronk him.
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You tell them, lil champ
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Bowers is a better prospect than Kyle Pitts and Kyle Pitts went #4 overall. He isn't falling to the mid-first, let alone pick #20.

Bowers is the only player I've watched since Adrian Peterson, who I believed could've been a difference maker in the NFL coming out of high school. He was that good as a true freshman.
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Here is a list of the notable prospects who have already declared for the NFL Draft:

Braelon Allen, RB, Wisconsin
Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame
Trey Benson, RB, Florida State
Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia
Javon Bullard, S, Georgia
Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State
Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State
Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami
Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia
Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina
Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia
Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
Jer'Zhan Newton, DL, Illinois
Michael Pratt, QB, Tulane
Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina
Brenden Rice, WR, USC
Ben Sinnott, TE, Kansas State
Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson
Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama
Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State
Tez Walker, WR, North Carolina
Cameron Ward, QB Washington State
Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson
Johnny Wilson, WR, Florida State
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Will Shipley declares for the NFL Draft
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JJ’s grades from PEE-EFF-EFF
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I think he will go in the top 10 if he plays well at the combine.
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Phantom wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:15 pm I think he will go in the top 10 if he plays well at the combine.
Good for the Bucs then.
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Then you and the Bucs can enjoy another mediocre year again and again.
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Tyleik Williams, DT, Ohio State, announces return to OSU.

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Phantom wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:14 pm Vikings trade for Kyler Murray, Patriots land Marvin Harrison Jr. at No. 4


Troy Franklin WR to Bucs? I've never heard of him before.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/new ... r-at-no-4/
I like Franklin a lot, he’d be a great fit with or without Evans returning. He reminds of Devonta Smith. He’s skinny, but he checks every box otherwise and has big time upside.
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Walter Football (a decent resource, but not the best) has 14 safeties with round 1-5 grades.
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Snake wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:13 am Walter Football (a decent resource, but not the best) has 14 safeties with round 1-5 grades.

Still a lot of undecided prospects all around.
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Would you take a chance on Maason Smith?
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Ouch
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The Bears are on the clock
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Phantom wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:49 am Here is a list of the notable prospects who have already declared for the NFL Draft:

Braelon Allen, RB, Wisconsin
Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame
Trey Benson, RB, Florida State
Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia
Javon Bullard, S, Georgia
Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State
Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State
Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami
Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia
Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina
Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia
Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
Jer'Zhan Newton, DL, Illinois
Michael Pratt, QB, Tulane
Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina
Brenden Rice, WR, USC
Ben Sinnott, TE, Kansas State
Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson
Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama
Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State
Tez Walker, WR, North Carolina
Cameron Ward, QB Washington State
Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson
Johnny Wilson, WR, Florida State
Someone is going to pick Johnny Wilson way too early.. he's gonna be a bust
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Phantom wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:41 amOuch
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Noles1724 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:25 pm
Phantom wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:49 am Here is a list of the notable prospects who have already declared for the NFL Draft:

Braelon Allen, RB, Wisconsin
Joe Alt, OT, Notre Dame
Trey Benson, RB, Florida State
Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia
Javon Bullard, S, Georgia
Keon Coleman, WR, Florida State
Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State
Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
Kamren Kinchens, S, Miami
Kamari Lassiter, CB, Georgia
Drake Maye, QB, North Carolina
Ladd McConkey, WR, Georgia
Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
Jer'Zhan Newton, DL, Illinois
Michael Pratt, QB, Tulane
Spencer Rattler, QB, South Carolina
Brenden Rice, WR, USC
Ben Sinnott, TE, Kansas State
Jeremiah Trotter Jr., LB, Clemson
Dallas Turner, EDGE, Alabama
Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State
Tez Walker, WR, North Carolina
Cameron Ward, QB Washington State
Nate Wiggins, CB, Clemson
Johnny Wilson, WR, Florida State
Someone is going to pick Johnny Wilson way too early.. he's gonna be a bust
It appears that Wilson still has the same issues at Florida State that he had at Arizona State, when I was following him.
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Snake wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:33 pm
Noles1724 wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:25 pm

Someone is going to pick Johnny Wilson way too early.. he's gonna be a bust
It appears that Wilson still has the same issues at Florida State that he had at Arizona State, when I was following him.
unfamiliar with Arizona Johnny.. FSU Johnny is limited route running and extremely questionable hands.. I'd say he's soft too, but that might be a judgmental take, so I'll exclude that.
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