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I don't have the patience to study game film for the draft. Thank you to all who do. However, the week or two heading up to the draft, mocks seem to know our GM pretty well. Well most, some still have left field picks like us drafting a safety in the first round this year. Every year it comes down to two positions. In 2017 it was down to Dalvin Cook and David Njoku. Unfortunately, OJ Howard fell to us

I have looked at way too many mock drafts and it seems that 50% have us taking an edge (Verse, Latu, Chop) followed by 35% a center (Barton or JPJ). My guess is if 3 are gone by 20, he will move up. If 4 of them go before our pick, he might do a Wirfs to prevent someone moving in front of us. If there are two when pick, he will try to move back. That has been his MO and I expect the same this year
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Interesting NFL draft rumors courtesy of reddit:
Schrager - Defensive players locked into Rd 1 Murphy, Turner, Latu, Arnold, Mitchell, Verse
ARI looking to trade down and back up. One scenario is: MIN - 1.11, 1.23, 2025 3rd to ARI for 1.04, 1.27, 2025 3rd to LAC for 1.05
ARI willing to move down further, but will require at least 3 1st round picks
CHI looking to move down from 9
LAC/MIA wants to move down and pick up OL in first
MIN looking to move up
NE fielding calls to move down and are willing to trade down for the right price
SF will trade Aiyuk during the draft rumored trade partner is PIT
McShay says NYG and ARI want to trade down

QB
ATL/LAR/NE may pick a QB (NE even after a trade down)
LV loves and Daniels and willing to make blockbuster trade for him, Penix would be the backup plan
NYG is interested in JJ McCarthy
NE out on Maye
Maye expected to sit out a year to learn and no one has Maye over Daniels
Penix will be drafted by pick 16

WR
Nabers has a reputation for being difficult to coach/has maturity issues and would have problems playing in a large city may still be WR1
Mitchell has diabetes and will cause his draft stock to fall
NYJ, JAX, PIT, and BUF expected to move into top 10 for WR
Big drop after WR3, but Brian Thomas is clear WR4

TE
Bowers won't last past #12

OL
GB thinks Zach Tom would be All-Pro or better at every position, but would be a HoF at center
Zak Zinter/Patrick Paul are being mocked too low
Fautanu will stay a OT
Barton will go higher than people think
JPJ and Frazier will go lower. Both projected 2nd round
Latham will go top 10, maybe first tackle of the board

DE
No clear #1 DE
Chop Robinson is considered top 15 to several teams and could go top 20
Marshawn Kneeland may sneak into round 1

DT
Murphy is considered the likely pick for ATL and may be first defensive player selected in the draft floor is 16
Injury to Newton worse than feared but will still go mid to late 1st round
T'Vondre Sweat will drop out of 1st round


LB
Only possible LB that can go in the 1st is Colson

CB
Andru Phillips and Ennis Rakestraw have late first round grades but will be drafted in 2nd round
DeJean could be drafted as early as 17

S
DeJean is a safety on most team boards
Nubin was a poor tester and teams are removing him from their boards
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Using this crazy stuff, I did a draft using as much of this as I could. Our best options when we pick would be WR Adonai Mitchell, Edge Laiatu Latu, OC JPJ, CB Nate Wiggins, and OG Graham Barton if all of this is more true than not
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[/The Atlanta Falcons have "interest" in Washington QB Michael Penix Jr.

Head Coach Raheem Morris and General Manager Terry Fontenot visited Penix for a private workout in Seattle and left impressed.

The Falcons own the 8th overall pick and the 43rd pick in the first 2 rounds.

Via ESPN insider Jeremy Fowler. quote]
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Do it Raheem!!
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Did we really need the Cadillac reminder? We also passed over Adrian Peterson for Gaines Adams because Cadillac was on the roster. Ugh. Effing Gruden. Thanks for the Super Bowl, but good God he was awful at building a roster.
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I don't think injuries should label you as a bust.
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mdb1958 wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:15 am I don't think injuries should label you as a bust.
Agreed. Cadillac Williams was a good pick at the time and he won Offensive Rookie of the Year for a reason. Not his fault.

Would we be drafting him again with perfect hindsight? Of course not. If we knew how guys would turn out, every team in retrospect probably would have drafted somebody different, even pillars of their team. For example, I doubt we would have drafted Mike Evans if we knew what Aaron Donald would have become.

The only recent Bucs first rounder I think we would still draft if we had a crystal ball knowing how things would turn out would be Tristan Wirfs. I don't think there's a guy drafted after him in his class I'd rather have.
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Cheb wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:55 am

The only recent Bucs first rounder I think we would still draft if we had a crystal ball knowing how things would turn out would be Tristan Wirfs. I don't think there's a guy drafted after him in his class I'd rather have.
For positional value, absolutely. But it would be some fun debates as to whether you'd rather have Wirfs or CeeDee Lamb/Justin Jefferson.
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Phantom wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:46 pmCrazy...
Teams aren’t clinging on to hope anymore. Show something real, or they’ll move off you.

I think moving off Rosen after 1 season for Murray set this new paradigm.
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Phantom wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:42 am...
To be fair the dude got horse collared so much they made a rule.
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My buddy is really talking up Owen Glascoe, TE Long Island U. I was looking him up and many places seem to have him as a PFA after the draft, but he kept insisting he will be drafted high in the draft. I think stumbled upon an article on CBS Sports where they compare him to Mark Andrews. When I mentioned this to my friend he was saying that he will be a top tight end but since he was a RB in the Wildcat and played wide a lot that his draft stock will fall compared to Andrews, but should be a day two pick. Anyone hear about the FCS kid?
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kaimaru wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:36 pm My buddy is really talking up Owen Glascoe, TE Long Island U. I was looking him up and many places seem to have him as a PFA after the draft, but he kept insisting he will be drafted high in the draft. I think stumbled upon an article on CBS Sports where they compare him to Mark Andrews. When I mentioned this to my friend he was saying that he will be a top tight end but since he was a RB in the Wildcat and played wide a lot that his draft stock will fall compared to Andrews, but should be a day two pick. Anyone hear about the FCS kid?


https://www.liuathletics.com/sports/foo ... ascoe/4101
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My brother will be over the moon.
Adam Schefter asked JJ McCarthy on his podcast what it would be like if he ended up on the #vikings.

“It would be the world … Coach O’Connell. He’s a guy that I’d run through a brick wall for. Everything that he wants to do with a football team, is something I think want to be a part of,” McCarthy said to Adam Schefter when asked to give his two cents on Minnesota. The QB’s statement gives rise to wild speculation – McCarthy pulling an Eli Manning move to secure a future with coach Kevin O’Connell and Co.
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My brother will be over the moon.
Adam Schefter asked JJ McCarthy on his podcast what it would be like if he ended up on the #vikings.

“It would be the world … Coach O’Connell. He’s a guy that I’d run through a brick wall for. Everything that he wants to do with a football team, is something I think want to be a part of,” McCarthy said to Adam Schefter when asked to give his two cents on Minnesota. The QB’s statement gives rise to wild speculation – McCarthy pulling an Eli Manning move to secure a future with coach Kevin O’Connell and Co.
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Just looked Emory up, so this was after all my ramblins about Jalen Coker. He gets to him somewhere in the middle of the video talking about how he could be this years Puka.


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I'm older than Emory so I'm glad he took up my way of thinking.


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mdb1958 wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:05 am I'm older than Emory so I'm glad he took up my way of thinking.


He use to come in and post his breakdowns on Larryland.
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He's doing CBS now? Maybe helping Trapasso how to do a mock draft.
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Actually perfectly happy with that
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I'm fine with Ladd McConkey in the second round.
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Although I love Brock Bowers a lot, we still have several positions to address, such as OL, DE, CB, and RB. Therefore, moving up in the draft is not a option
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It does bring up philosophical questions about roster construction. Should you try to fill every roster “hole” every offseason?

Where should a team tolerate replacement level players?
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Phantom wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:50 pm Although I love Brock Bowers a lot, we still have several positions to address, such as OL, DE, CB, and RB. Therefore, moving up in the draft is not a option
We aren’t getting Bowers.
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Grahamburn wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:28 pm
Phantom wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:50 pm Although I love Brock Bowers a lot, we still have several positions to address, such as OL, DE, CB, and RB. Therefore, moving up in the draft is not a option
We aren’t getting Bowers.
No shit sherlock. See the highlight
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I have never heard of him before. Maybe @mdb1958 does

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Happy Draft Day!!!
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Nope, gotta look him up.
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Phantom wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 6:46 pmCrazy...


Fake news - 5 got their chance and one is still waiting
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