Lamar to the Falcons or Panthers?

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Where would you prefer Lamar get traded?

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_MB_ wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:17 pm
Bootz wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:04 pm

I bang the table on anyone who deserves it, no matter what they look like. People draw that distinction because of what I look like. If you say Lamar Jackson has had a better career than let's say Justin Herbert, no one bats an eye lash. If I say the exact same thing, People clutch pearls and say I'm playing the race game. There's a difference here.
I read the subtext of what everyone says around here. While you are not explicit and hopelessly bigoted, you do have a bias.

I suppose some of it is natural like when we talked about transference (white kid pretends he's Brady, black kid pretends he's Jackson) but I can make a handful of examples where this kind of shit goes on.

Brock Purdy
Josh Allen
Lamar Jackson
Kyler Murray
Justin Fields
Justin Herbert
The two kids on the jets
Pretty much every black QB in the draft
Pretty much every white skill position player in the draft
Jameis Winston the whole time he was here
What kids on the Jets?!! And what exactly are you referring to with this list?
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Bootz wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:24 pm
_MB_ wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:17 pm
I read the subtext of what everyone says around here. While you are not explicit and hopelessly bigoted, you do have a bias.

I suppose some of it is natural like when we talked about transference (white kid pretends he's Brady, black kid pretends he's Jackson) but I can make a handful of examples where this kind of shit goes on.

Brock Purdy
Josh Allen
Lamar Jackson
Kyler Murray
Justin Fields
Justin Herbert
The two kids on the jets
Pretty much every black QB in the draft
Pretty much every white skill position player in the draft
Jameis Winston the whole time he was here
What kids on the Jets?!! And what exactly are you referring to with this list?
Nevermind. Nobody wants to admit to shit.
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_MB_ wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:46 pm
Bootz wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:24 pm

What kids on the Jets?!! And what exactly are you referring to with this list?
Nevermind. Nobody wants to admit to shit.
HA! Nice try at entrapment. Make some shit up then when you're asked about it, you back out. Thought you were better than this. And it's so convenient that you can name everyone else, but not "the 2 kids on the Jets". Do better.
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Bootz wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:52 pm
_MB_ wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:46 pm
Nevermind. Nobody wants to admit to shit.
HA! Nice try at entrapment. Make some shit up then when you're asked about it, you back out. Thought you were better than this. And it's so convenient that you can name everyone else, but not "the 2 kids on the Jets". Do better.
Yeah, you don't knock white players and coaches for the benefit of black players and coaches and I can't prove otherwise.

Well done. I am defeated.
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_MB_ wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:25 pm
Bootz wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:52 pm

HA! Nice try at entrapment. Make some shit up then when you're asked about it, you back out. Thought you were better than this. And it's so convenient that you can name everyone else, but not "the 2 kids on the Jets". Do better.
Yeah, you don't knock white players and coaches for the benefit of black players and coaches and I can't prove otherwise.

Well done. I am defeated.
Of course you can't. You can't even name the "2 kids on the Jets" you referenced here because you made it up.

I didn't defeat you, you did it yourself.
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Bootz wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:42 pm
_MB_ wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:25 pm
Yeah, you don't knock white players and coaches for the benefit of black players and coaches and I can't prove otherwise.

Well done. I am defeated.
Of course you can't. You can't even name the "2 kids on the Jets" you referenced here because you made it up.

I didn't defeat you, you did it yourself.
Yup. Been getting my ass handed to me all day.
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Zach Wilson and Mike White. Aren’t those the “kids”?
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Snake wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:47 pm Zach Wilson and Mike White. Aren’t those the “kids”?
He doesn't know because he made it up. That's why he's back pedaling.

I said nothing about Mike White in the past. I was pretty optimistic on Zach Wilson though, I thought he'd be better than he was. Most people here were way more bullish on Zach Wilson than I was but of course as I stated an assumption will be made because of what I look like.
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Bootz wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:52 pm
Snake wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:47 pm Zach Wilson and Mike White. Aren’t those the “kids”?
He doesn't know because he made it up. That's why he's back pedaling.

I said nothing about Mike White in the past. I was pretty optimistic on Zach Wilson though, I thought he'd be better than he was. Most people here were way more bullish on Zach Wilson than I was but of course as I stated an assumption will be made because of what I look like.
You make assumptions about people that post here based on things they say about a player based on that player's color all the time. So just stop with this b.s. It's ugly and has no place in here.
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Buc2 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:11 am
Bootz wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:52 pm

He doesn't know because he made it up. That's why he's back pedaling.

I said nothing about Mike White in the past. I was pretty optimistic on Zach Wilson though, I thought he'd be better than he was. Most people here were way more bullish on Zach Wilson than I was but of course as I stated an assumption will be made because of what I look like.
You make assumptions about people that post here based on things they say about a player based on that player's color all the time. So just stop with this b.s. It's ugly and has no place in here.
What's ugly is making shit up with no basis. Like @_MB_ did and like you and others do. That's what is ugly and has no place. So do better.
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Bootz wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:53 am
Buc2 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 9:11 am

You make assumptions about people that post here based on things they say about a player based on that player's color all the time. So just stop with this b.s. It's ugly and has no place in here.
What's ugly is making shit up with no basis. Like @_MB_ did and like you and others do. That's what is ugly and has no place. So do better.
Get over it, Chief. You have biases too.
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I think the the Ravens will let Lamar leave and draft QB Richardson

Lamar to Falcons?

Still think Derek Care is the best QB in the division? @Snake 😂

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We're gonna go from having the best QB in the division to the worst... Aren't we...
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Yes. Hopefully that will get Bowles and maybe even Licht the exit. There is a silver lining to every scenario fam.
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Unless some team makes an outrageous contract off to Lamar, I see the Ravens matching that offer.
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GreatTimes wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:48 pm Unless some team makes an outrageous contract off to Lamar, I see the Ravens matching that offer.
Are "poison pills" still allowed in these deals?

For example, I can remember one player in this situation (drawing a blank on the specifics) who had shit like, 'Earns an addition $20 million if he plays more than 3 games in Ohio' or something like that in his deal. Another guy had a proviso that simply said if he wasn't the highest paid lineman on his team, his entire contract became instantly fully guaranteed. Stuff like that. I'd be surprised if the NFL hasn't fixed the issue since then.

The interesting thing will be if another teams makes the offer, the Ravens match, and Lamar simply refuses to play for them again. It could be a real mess.
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I saw the suggestion that he could refuse to play in the other thread if the Ravens match an offer. I mean, come on. Not happening.
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Grahamburn wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:56 am I saw the suggestion that he could refuse to play in the other thread if the Ravens match an offer. I mean, come on. Not happening.
Why not? It worked out excellent for Watson, despite his baggage. He picked his destination and got his fully guaranteed deal.

Unless the contract the Ravens match is a MONSTER deal, I can absolutely see LJ playing it that way. Most fans probably wouldn't blame him, either, if it looked like he was getting hijacked.
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They nixed poison pills years ago iirc.

Refusing the play of Ravens match makes no sense and would be a disaster for all parties.
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But what *is* a poison pill in this context?
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MJW wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:00 am
Grahamburn wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:56 am I saw the suggestion that he could refuse to play in the other thread if the Ravens match an offer. I mean, come on. Not happening.
Why not? It worked out excellent for Watson, despite his baggage. He picked his destination and got his fully guaranteed deal.

Unless the contract the Ravens match is a MONSTER deal, I can absolutely see LJ playing it that way. Most fans probably wouldn't blame him, either, if it looked like he was getting hijacked.
The whole point is to let him test his market. If he gets an acceptable contract offer there’s just no way he wouldn’t play if the Ravens decided to match it.

Watson was adamant that he’d never play for Houston again. Lamar had never said anything like that.

If the relationship is shattered to that point the Ravens would just take the picks.
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Grahamburn wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:29 pm
MJW wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:00 am

Why not? It worked out excellent for Watson, despite his baggage. He picked his destination and got his fully guaranteed deal.

Unless the contract the Ravens match is a MONSTER deal, I can absolutely see LJ playing it that way. Most fans probably wouldn't blame him, either, if it looked like he was getting hijacked.
The whole point is to let him test his market. If he gets an acceptable contract offer there’s just no way he wouldn’t play if the Ravens decided to match it.

Watson was adamant that he’d never play for Houston again. Lamar had never said anything like that.

If the relationship is shattered to that point the Ravens would just take the picks.
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Phantom wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:41 pm
Grahamburn wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:29 pm

The whole point is to let him test his market. If he gets an acceptable contract offer there’s just no way he wouldn’t play if the Ravens decided to match it.

Watson was adamant that he’d never play for Houston again. Lamar had never said anything like that.

If the relationship is shattered to that point the Ravens would just take the picks.
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Buc2 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:28 pm
Phantom wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:41 pm

See the bold part right there? @Buc2
Okay. So?
Lamar isn’t going anywhere unless a team gets Cleveland Browns crazy, and the NFL appears to have drawn a line on the sand that no team is going Cleveland Browns crazy.
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Grahamburn wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:28 am
Buc2 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:28 pm

Okay. So?
Lamar isn’t going anywhere unless a team gets Cleveland Browns crazy, and the NFL appears to have drawn a line on the sand that no team is going Cleveland Browns crazy.
Exactly
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Grahamburn wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:28 am
Buc2 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:28 pm

Okay. So?
Lamar isn’t going anywhere unless a team gets Cleveland Browns crazy, and the NFL appears to have drawn a line on the sand that no team is going Cleveland Browns crazy.
I was just wondering why @Phantom directed that post at me. I'm on record as not giving a shit about what happens with the LJ circus.
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You gotta be freaking kidding me? @Buc2 you can’t be possibly this stupid.

You’re being ridiculous lately
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Wow!
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Whatever you say, dude.
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@Buc2 Plinko-lit is having a bit of an off day. Happens as we approach day light savings.
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Bootz wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:31 am @Buc2 Plinko-lit is having a bit of an off day. Happens as we approach day light savings.
mdb makes more sense.
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