Super Bowl LVII game thread

[uscbucsfan1]

Moment shouldn’t dictate the outcome of whether it’s a penalty or not. It’s like saying an obvious facemask should be overlooked because of the moment there.

What makes people look like fools is arguing with the player who admitted he committed a penalty.

We get the player admitted it. It’s whether they still should have thrown the flag in that moment. It’s very debatable and there’s no right or wrong answer. Two very respected former players —Greg Olsen and Troy Aikman—both said no. And I value their opinion a lot more than people’s here.

I am mixed on it, but it is what it is. We move on, but it’s something that referees could take a look at and discuss for future SBs. Like I said, the NHL officiates differently in the playoffs than they do the regular season.

To be fair, Olsen said the Goddert catch should have been and would be overturned.

[King Bootz]

Moment shouldn’t dictate the outcome of whether it’s a penalty or not. It’s like saying an obvious facemask should be overlooked because of the moment there.

What makes people look like fools is arguing with the player who admitted he committed a penalty.

We get the player admitted it. It’s whether they still should have thrown the flag in that moment. It’s very debatable and there’s no right or wrong answer. Two very respected former players —Greg Olsen and Troy Aikman—both said no. And I value their opinion a lot more than people’s here.

I am mixed on it, but it is what it is. We move on, but it’s something that referees could take a look at and discuss for future SBs. Like I said, the NHL officiates differently in the playoffs than they do the regular season.

Moment shouldn’t dictate the outcome. Again, if it’s a facemask are you saying they should have ignored it?

[Four Verticals]

Well....I found one guy:

"Eagles CB James Bradberry on crucial third-down penalty: 'It was holding'"

I'm not sure who this guy is but he obviously did not watch the play.

Doesn't make it a good call. It's one of those calls that was technically holding, but not normally called. When it's finally called in a play like that, it makes it a bad call.

So the player involved in the play says it was a hold but your argument is that it shouldn't have been called due to circumstances. You keep going with that.

[Four Verticals]

We get the player admitted it. It’s whether they still should have thrown the flag in that moment. It’s very debatable and there’s no right or wrong answer. Two very respected former players —Greg Olsen and Troy Aikman—both said no. And I value their opinion a lot more than people’s here.

I am mixed on it, but it is what it is. We move on, but it’s something that referees could take a look at and discuss for future SBs. Like I said, the NHL officiates differently in the playoffs than they do the regular season.

To be fair, Olsen said the Goddert catch should have been and would be overturned.

I thought by rule it wasn't a catch myself.

[uscbucsfan1]

Doesn't make it a good call. It's one of those calls that was technically holding, but not normally called. When it's finally called in a play like that, it makes it a bad call.

So the player involved in the play says it was a hold but your argument is that it shouldn't have been called due to circumstances. You keep going with that.

There are holds on every play. Someone posted multiple clips of the same thing in the game that weren't called. If they were called consistently, people would have less issues with that call.

Again, it's technically a hold, but something that the league does such a poor job with consistency, when it is called people get mad.

[mdb1958]

For me, the calls have to be consistent throughout the game. I have issues with the idea that when it comes down to the end of the game we should 'let them play'. Either way, a call or no call will screw one team or the other. If the calls have been consistent all game then each team KNOWS what is going to be called and what is not going to be called.

The rules are subject to individual interpretation in a split second by the various refs. It's possible that an official on the other side of the field doesn't make that call. Establishing consistency is difficult to do in a sport where we have a bunch of human beings interpreting rules as quickly as they are required.

You are forgetting the fact that now the NFL has earbuds in all these ref's, telling them what and how to think.

[uscbucsfan1]

To be fair, Olsen said the Goddert catch should have been and would be overturned.

I thought by rule it wasn't a catch myself.

He had his left foot down when the ball stopped moving for a split second.

[King Bootz]

Doesn't make it a good call. It's one of those calls that was technically holding, but not normally called. When it's finally called in a play like that, it makes it a bad call.

So the player involved in the play says it was a hold but your argument is that it shouldn't have been called due to circumstances. You keep going with that.

The number of people willing to debate James Bradberry on his own penalty is astounding to me. I know people are stupid but damn.

[King Bootz]

So the player involved in the play says it was a hold but your argument is that it shouldn't have been called due to circumstances. You keep going with that.

There are holds on every play. Someone posted multiple clips of the same thing in the game that weren't called. If they were called consistently, people would have less issues with that call.

Again, it's technically a hold, but something that the league does such a poor job with consistency, when it is called people get mad.

If only the damn officials eyes worked like the camera angles do!

[Navybuc]

We get the player admitted it. It’s whether they still should have thrown the flag in that moment. It’s very debatable and there’s no right or wrong answer. Two very respected former players —Greg Olsen and Troy Aikman—both said no. And I value their opinion a lot more than people’s here.

I am mixed on it, but it is what it is. We move on, but it’s something that referees could take a look at and discuss for future SBs. Like I said, the NHL officiates differently in the playoffs than they do the regular season.

Moment shouldn’t dictate the outcome. Again, if it’s a facemask are you saying they should have ignored it?

No. But that’s more black and white. But I disagree on the moment aspect because I think it should play a role on certain calls. I think you let them play more in a moment like that unless it’s a really clear black and white. Now the Saints-Rams game a few years ago…that was clear black and white and it didn’t get called. Again, that’s juts my opinion. I think some refs call it, but others don’t. I see both sides of the argument.

I guess me being a huge hockey fan, I’m just used to seeing different refereeing in critical moments.

[uscbucsfan1]

There are holds on every play. Someone posted multiple clips of the same thing in the game that weren't called. If they were called consistently, people would have less issues with that call.

Again, it's technically a hold, but something that the league does such a poor job with consistency, when it is called people get mad.

If only the damn officials eyes worked like the camera angles do!

That's an absolutely valid point.

[mdb1958]

What would picking KC to win for a million gotten you?

[mdb1958]

There are holds on every play. Someone posted multiple clips of the same thing in the game that weren't called. If they were called consistently, people would have less issues with that call.

Again, it's technically a hold, but something that the league does such a poor job with consistency, when it is called people get mad.

If only the damn officials eyes worked like the camera angles do!

I bet there were over a hundred NFL people with headsets on talking to a higher level that talks to the refs.

[Four Verticals]

So the player involved in the play says it was a hold but your argument is that it shouldn't have been called due to circumstances. You keep going with that.

There are holds on every play. Someone posted multiple clips of the same thing in the game that weren't called. If they were called consistently, people would have less issues with that call.

Again, it's technically a hold, but something that the league does such a poor job with consistency, when it is called people get mad.

Not every ref in a crew is going to see the same thing the same way. It's possible that another ref sees nothing with this play. This same ref may have called similar plays earlier in the game in a similar fashion. I don't think it was a hold but it shouldn't have been called is a great point to argue.

[Four Verticals]

I thought by rule it wasn't a catch myself.

He had his left foot down when the ball stopped moving for a split second.

That's not how I saw it even on the replay but that's ok.

[Four Verticals]

Moment shouldn’t dictate the outcome. Again, if it’s a facemask are you saying they should have ignored it?

No. But that’s more black and white. But I disagree on the moment aspect because I think it should play a role on certain calls. I think you let them play more in a moment like that unless it’s a really clear black and white. Now the Saints-Rams game a few years ago…that was clear black and white and it didn’t get called. Again, that’s juts my opinion. I think some refs call it, but others don’t. I see both sides of the argument.

I guess me being a huge hockey fan, I’m just used to seeing different refereeing in critical moments.

Isn't part of letting them play allowing the offense, in this case, have the opportunity to make the play without being held?

[Snake]

Refs have 1 job in a game that’s this subjective and fluid:

Be consistent.

They weren’t at the worst possible time.

[GreatTimes]

If only the damn officials eyes worked like the camera angles do!

I bet there were over a hundred NFL people with headsets on talking to a higher level that talks to the refs.

OK, I confess. It was me talking to the refs who told them to throw that flag for holding. I also sprayed the field with Pam Cooking oil to make the field slippery. And just to make sure the outcome of the game was never in doubt, I sprayed the football that Hurts fumbled with the same Pam Cooking oil. Not to mention I stabbed that Eagles defensive lineman in the backside with a pin to make him jump offside.

[mdb1958]

I bet there were over a hundred NFL people with headsets on talking to a higher level that talks to the refs.

OK, I confess. It was me talking to the refs who told them to throw that flag for holding. I also sprayed the field with Pam Cooking oil to make the field slippery. And just to make sure the outcome of the game was never in doubt, I sprayed the football that Hurts fumbled with the same Pam Cooking oil. Not to mention I stabbed that Eagles defensive lineman in the backside with a pin to make him jump offside.

NFL New York they are heavily involved.

[mdb1958]

Did you mean: How many employees work for NFL New York?

Based in New York, NY, National Football League is a key player in the hospitality industry with 3,595 employees and an annual revenue of $930.0M. We unite people and inspire communities in the joy of the game by delivering the world's most exciting sports and entertainment experience. Is This Your Company?

[Buc2]

OK, I confess. It was me talking to the refs who told them to throw that flag for holding. I also sprayed the field with Pam Cooking oil to make the field slippery. And just to make sure the outcome of the game was never in doubt, I sprayed the football that Hurts fumbled with the same Pam Cooking oil. Not to mention I stabbed that Eagles defensive lineman in the backside with a pin to make him jump offside.

NFL New York they are heavily involved in my head.

[mdb1958]

NFL New York they are heavily involved in my head.

You are older than me, we watched football on black and white tv's.

What has the internet done to you? Do I really need to quote this?

[Bootz]

Did you mean: How many employees work for NFL New York?

Based in New York, NY, National Football League is a key player in the hospitality industry with 3,595 employees and an annual revenue of $930.0M. We unite people and inspire communities in the joy of the game by delivering the world's most exciting sports and entertainment experience. Is This Your Company?

Did you just ask question and then ask yourself for clarification?

[mdb1958]

Did you mean: How many employees work for NFL New York?

Based in New York, NY, National Football League is a key player in the hospitality industry with 3,595 employees and an annual revenue of $930.0M. We unite people and inspire communities in the joy of the game by delivering the world's most exciting sports and entertainment experience. Is This Your Company?

Did you just ask question and then ask yourself for clarification?

No, I asked google. 3600 employees just in New York - no wonder they don't know where to spot the ball.

[Bootz]

Did you just ask question and then ask yourself for clarification?

No, I asked google. 3600 employees just in New York - no wonder they don't know where to spot the ball.

You asked Google……………here?

[_MB_]

You do that shit at my house and we're gonna fight.

[These Are The Days]

Plot twist: it was his TV and he's freaking out over like 2 grand

[MJW]

So the player involved in the play says it was a hold but your argument is that it shouldn't have been called due to circumstances. You keep going with that.

The number of people willing to debate James Bradberry on his own penalty is astounding to me. I know people are stupid but damn.

Nobody is debating a penalty could have been called. Not with our without Bradberry's input.

I'm fully willing to debate that in that situation, with those stakes, with as ticky-tack as the penalty was, if it's the best thing for the game, the (non KC) fans, or the league that it was called. I say no. The last thing the league needs, or we want, is 99% of the post-Superbowl discussion being about a call.

[Buc2]

The number of people willing to debate James Bradberry on his own penalty is astounding to me. I know people are stupid but damn.

Nobody is debating a penalty could have been called. Not with our without Bradberry's input.

I'm fully willing to debate that in that situation, with those stakes, with as ticky-tack as the penalty was, if it's the best thing for the game, the (non KC) fans, or the league that it was called. I say no. The last thing the league needs, or we want, is 99% of the post-Superbowl discussion being about a call.

Too late for that, eh?

[Bootz]

The number of people willing to debate James Bradberry on his own penalty is astounding to me. I know people are stupid but damn.

Nobody is debating a penalty could have been called. Not with our without Bradberry's input.

I'm fully willing to debate that in that situation, with those stakes, with as ticky-tack as the penalty was, if it's the best thing for the game, the (non KC) fans, or the league that it was called. I say no. The last thing the league needs, or we want, is 99% of the post-Superbowl discussion being about a call.

If it's not called, the discussion is still likely about that call. Especially if the Eagles win. People just love to complain and have something to bitch about. It's human nature to be miserable. Life sucks for most people.

[Buc2]

Nobody is debating a penalty could have been called. Not with our without Bradberry's input.

I'm fully willing to debate that in that situation, with those stakes, with as ticky-tack as the penalty was, if it's the best thing for the game, the (non KC) fans, or the league that it was called. I say no. The last thing the league needs, or we want, is 99% of the post-Superbowl discussion being about a call.

If it's not called, the discussion is still likely about that call. Especially if the Eagles win. People just love to complain and have something to bitch about. It's human nature to be miserable. Life sucks for most people.

As I said earlier, it was definitely a case of, damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's just a shame that happened. But even if there had been no foul, people would have looked further back in the game to find some controversy.

[Betsy]

People just love to complain and have something to bitch about. It's human nature to be miserable. Life sucks for most people.

This statement says a lot about you.

[Bootz]

People just love to complain and have something to bitch about. It's human nature to be miserable. Life sucks for most people.

This statement says a lot about you.

This statement says nothing about me. I enjoyed the game. One of the best Superbowls ever played.

[Betsy]

WHOOSHHHHHHH.......

[Buc2]

Ju-Ju trolls Bradberry, catches heat from other players.

https://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/list ... -reaction/