The Official Jameis Winston Thread

[King Bootz]

The Saints are also much worse than the Buccaneers in rushing at this point.

I'm curious as to the metrics you used to come to this conclusion, but it's 100% false.

The Saints are 10th in rushing, averaging 126 yards/game and 4 yards a carry.

The Bucs mean while rank 27th, averaging 82 yards/game and a matching 4 yards a carry.

[13F11B]

The Saints are also much worse than the Buccaneers in rushing at this point.

I'm curious as to the metrics you used to come to this conclusion, but it's 100% false.

The Saints are 10th in rushing, averaging 126 yards/game and 4 yards a carry.

The Bucs mean while rank 27th, averaging 82 yards/game and a matching 4 yards a carry.

I used the NFL.com team stats rushing page. It showed the Saints below the Buccaneers which I thought was weird.

https://www.nfl.com/stats/team-stats/of ... 21/reg/all

Not sure what that is sorted on looking at it again. My fault for not looking at that more closely.

[King Bootz]

I'm curious as to the metrics you used to come to this conclusion, but it's 100% false.

The Saints are 10th in rushing, averaging 126 yards/game and 4 yards a carry.

The Bucs mean while rank 27th, averaging 82 yards/game and a matching 4 yards a carry.

I used the NFL.com team stats rushing page. It showed the Saints below the Buccaneers which I thought was weird.

https://www.nfl.com/stats/team-stats/of ... 21/reg/all

Not sure what that is sorted on looking at it again. My fault for not looking at that more closely.

Oh dear God...Swear I'm trying to be nice...

Teams are listed in alphabetical order, kiddo. B comes before S.

[13F11B]

I used the NFL.com team stats rushing page. It showed the Saints below the Buccaneers which I thought was weird.

https://www.nfl.com/stats/team-stats/of ... 21/reg/all

Not sure what that is sorted on looking at it again. My fault for not looking at that more closely.

Oh dear God...Swear I'm trying to be nice...

Teams are listed in alphabetical order, kiddo. B comes before S.

Thanks. That is not how they do player stats so I was not aware. Now I do. I appreciate the knowledge.

My point still stands that Winston is playing within a system this year and not being forced to put the team on his sholders.

[IchabodCrane84]

Looking like he’s going to prove a lot of his doubters wrong.

The QB Whisperer seeming a little more like a great QB kept falling in my lap-er.

Sean Payton is a great coach.

This has been said I'd say on 4 different occasions about Jameis after a 4 or 5 game span. It is the reason he is not here. I am holding out any praise or criticism until he has a full season under his belt if not 2.

[BlackTrumpFan]

You can’t break someone mentally when they do not have a brain to begin with

Nice subtle racism

Jameis Winston was academically accepted into Stanford and scored a 28 on the wonderlic test( same as Peyton manning)

[Digital_Damage]

You can’t break someone mentally when they do not have a brain to begin with

Nice subtle racism

Jameis Winston was academically accepted into Stanford and scored a 28 on the wonderlic test( same as Peyton manning)

[vivalaReagan]

Nice subtle racism

you can’t criticize a black qb without it being judged as racism. nice soft racism of low expectations.

[King Bootz]

You can’t break someone mentally when they do not have a brain to begin with

Nice subtle racism

FIFY kiddo

[vivalaReagan]

Nice subtle racism

FIFY kiddo

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[Moozician]

I've seen nothing from Winston through 5 games to illustrate he's still not a roller coaster of a QB.

Enjoy the ride Saints fans.

Fitzmagic/Fitztragic 2.0

[King Bootz]

Looking like he’s going to prove a lot of his doubters wrong.

The QB Whisperer seeming a little more like a great QB kept falling in my lap-er.

Sean Payton is a great coach.

This has been said I'd say on 4 different occasions about Jameis after a 4 or 5 game span. It is the reason he is not here. I am holding out any praise or criticism until he has a full season under his belt if not 2.

Probably best practice, ichy. But you know people can't help themselves.

[Dread]

You can’t break someone mentally when they do not have a brain to begin with

Nice subtle racism

Jameis Winston was academically accepted into Stanford and scored a 28 on the wonderlic test( same as Peyton manning)

Yup, he's clearly super smart.

Talented also.

Which is why it must be racism and bad coaching that's held him back.

[CupidStunt]

Looking like he’s going to prove a lot of his doubters wrong.

The QB Whisperer seeming a little more like a great QB kept falling in my lap-er.

Sean Payton is a great coach.

This has been said I'd say on 4 different occasions about Jameis after a 4 or 5 game span. It is the reason he is not here. I am holding out any praise or criticism until he has a full season under his belt if not 2.

I checked his stats, just quickly looking at tds vs ints and found at least one example (sometimes more) each season with the Bucs of him having very similar numbers over 4 and 5 game stretches to what he has done for the Saints in their 5 games so far. When I remembered to look, the W-L over those stretches wasn't impressive but I know it's a team sport.

Tbh, I was starting to think maybe he has turned it around but after seeing those historical stretches yeah I think I'll wait and see what happens over a longer period of time.

[BlackTrumpFan]

Nice subtle racism

Jameis Winston was academically accepted into Stanford and scored a 28 on the wonderlic test( same as Peyton manning)

Yup, he's clearly super smart.

Talented also.

Which is why it must be racism and bad coaching that's held him back.

you said it better than i could

[Snake]

And god bless Tom Brady.

Tom Brady is attached to spygate and deflategate. He ain’t no Michael Jordan or Wayne Gretzky

Brady has played better after being “caught” and presumably under greater scrutiny. Bad take.

[BucFanClw]

Yup, he's clearly super smart.

Talented also.

Which is why it must be racism and bad coaching that's held him back.

you said it better than i could

Hold on....





There's a black Trump? Who does he play for?

[uscbucsfan]

you said it better than i could

Hold on....





There's a black Trump? Who does he play for?

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[kaimaru]

Nice subtle racism

Jameis Winston was academically accepted into Stanford and scored a 28 on the wonderlic test( same as Peyton manning)

Yup, he's clearly super smart.

Talented also.

Which is why it must be racism and bad coaching that's held him back.

My vote is arrogance in his ability and common sense (not getting lasik sooner).

[King Bootz]

Yup, he's clearly super smart.

Talented also.

Which is why it must be racism and bad coaching that's held him back.

My vote is arrogance in his ability and common sense (not getting lasik sooner).

You should learn more about the lasik procedure 1st and then amend your vote. As it stands you obviously know nothing about it.

[MJW]

Some great quotes from history:

"In the realm of ideas everything depends on enthusiasm... in the real world all rests on perseverance," Johann Wolfgang Von Goeth

"“I suppose therefore that all things I see are illusions; I believe that nothing has ever existed of everything my lying memory tells me. I think I have no senses. I believe that body, shape, extension, motion, location are functions. What is there then that can be taken as true? Perhaps only this one thing, that nothing at all is certain.” - Rene Descartes

"Fuck her in her pussy!" - Jameis Winston

Genius can be found anywhere!

[kaimaru]

My vote is arrogance in his ability and common sense (not getting lasik sooner).

You should learn more about the lasik procedure 1st and then amend your vote. As it stands you obviously know nothing about it.

My brother in law had LASIK and he said. Holy shit. I can see everything. Jameis was called "squinston" in college. Sure it didn't affect him. Mr All Black QB is God to me. Look. I side with you on Lamar. I don't side with you on Winston. I get you promote every black QB even if they suck. I get it. But GDamn you need to stop pulling for the Bucs rival. If you don't then you're not a bucs fan, you're a black person fan.

[kaimaru]

I also feel you think Vea is Asian and not black enough for your support. No agenda? Fuck you.

[Primeminister]

You should learn more about the lasik procedure 1st and then amend your vote. As it stands you obviously know nothing about it.

My brother in law had LASIK and he said. Holy shit. I can see everything. Jameis was called "squinston" in college. Sure it didn't affect him. Mr All Black QB is God to me. Look. I side with you on Lamar. I don't side with you on Winston. I get you promote every black QB even if they suck. I get it. But GDamn you need to stop pulling for the Bucs rival. If you don't then you're not a bucs fan, you're a black person fan.

You really are walking into this one eyes wide shut.

Edit: I’m feeling nice. Google is your friend.

[MJW]

My brother in law had LASIK and he said. Holy shit. I can see everything. Jameis was called "squinston" in college. Sure it didn't affect him. Mr All Black QB is God to me. Look. I side with you on Lamar. I don't side with you on Winston. I get you promote every black QB even if they suck. I get it. But GDamn you need to stop pulling for the Bucs rival. If you don't then you're not a bucs fan, you're a black person fan.

You really are walking into this one eyes wide shut.

Dude, the ratio of normal people to insane people is not great on this new board thus far.

[King Bootz]

You should learn more about the lasik procedure 1st and then amend your vote. As it stands you obviously know nothing about it.

My brother in law had LASIK and he said. Holy shit. I can see everything. Jameis was called "squinston" in college. Sure it didn't affect him. Mr All Black QB is God to me. Look. I side with you on Lamar. I don't side with you on Winston. I get you promote every black QB even if they suck. I get it. But GDamn you need to stop pulling for the Bucs rival. If you don't then you're not a bucs fan, you're a black person fan.

This was a very bizarre response to a post telling you to research lasik surgery.

[King Bootz]

My brother in law had LASIK and he said. Holy shit. I can see everything. Jameis was called "squinston" in college. Sure it didn't affect him. Mr All Black QB is God to me. Look. I side with you on Lamar. I don't side with you on Winston. I get you promote every black QB even if they suck. I get it. But GDamn you need to stop pulling for the Bucs rival. If you don't then you're not a bucs fan, you're a black person fan.

You really are walking into this one eyes wide shut.

Edit: I’m feeling nice. Google is your friend.

That was a mini meltdown to me telling him to research lasik. How the hell did we get on the topic of Mr All Black QB and Lamar Jackson and pulling for Bucs rivals.


@MJW is right on here. At least when she and I go at it we know the other isn't a lunatic and is at least gonna do the work and research. These new people are insane.

[Jason Bourne]

I also feel you think Vea is Asian and not black enough for your support. No agenda? Fuck you.

Are you like the black whisperer or something ?

[King Bootz]

I also feel you think Vea is Asian and not black enough for your support. No agenda? Fuck you.

[Digital_Damage]

You should learn more about the lasik procedure 1st and then amend your vote. As it stands you obviously know nothing about it.

My brother in law had LASIK and he said. Holy shit. I can see everything. Jameis was called "squinston" in college. Sure it didn't affect him. Mr All Black QB is God to me. Look. I side with you on Lamar. I don't side with you on Winston. I get you promote every black QB even if they suck. I get it. But GDamn you need to stop pulling for the Bucs rival. If you don't then you're not a bucs fan, you're a black person fan.

Don't know why you are surprised, Bootz is a documented racist. It is what it is.

[King Bootz]

I also feel you think Vea is Asian and not black enough for your support. No agenda? Fuck you.

Are you like the black whisperer or something ?

He's black Trump. "Those people" love him

[CannonFire]

It says a lot about a person's character when they play 5 years with a team who invested a #1 pick and over $60M and he waits until AFTER those 5 years are up and the team moves on from him... to have a procedure that would help him see better.

[King Bootz]

It says a lot about a person's character when they play 5 years with a team who invested a #1 pick and over $60M and he waits until AFTER those 5 years are up and the team moves on from him... to have a procedure that would help him see better.

Another one that doesn't understand lasik.

[CannonFire]

It says a lot about a person's character when they play 5 years with a team who invested a #1 pick and over $60M and he waits until AFTER those 5 years are up and the team moves on from him... to have a procedure that would help him see better.

Another one that doesn't understand lasik.

Let's ask Jameis about Lasik:
“I can read license plates. I can read street signs,” Winston told reporters. “I think the precision in the vision is the biggest difference.”

Winston said his vision was imperfect before, but it wasn’t that bad. Still, he’s seeing significant improvements since the surgery.

“No blurriness, and I think that’s huge,” Winston said. “Depth perception has increased tremendously and those are the big things. I didn’t have bad eyes, I just had astigmatism. I had certain things that they had to fix to increase the precision and the sharpness of my vision.”


Keep pretending. Winston wasn't very good here... he never was going to be good here. I'm glad he's gone. Time to move on. Good luck to him in the future.

[uscbucsfan]

Keep pretending. Winston wasn't very good here... he never was going to be good here. I'm glad he's gone. Time to move on. Good luck to him in the future.

This being true doesn't make the post below any less of a bad take.

It says a lot about a person's character when they play 5 years with a team who invested a #1 pick and over $60M and he waits until AFTER those 5 years are up and the team moves on from him... to have a procedure that would help him see better.

Again, this was addressed when he was here. He was told to wait to get lasik while he was in Tampa. Most recommend people being over 25 years old, even though you CAN get it as young as 18.