Welcome new OC Dave Canales!

[Snake]

Good luck with Kyle Trash, Dave!

[real bucs fan]

Canales is most known for his connections to Pete Carroll going all the way back to his USC days. Wonder if Canales has an eye on a certain current USC quarterback???

[Sdbucs]

My dad/brother are USC/Seahawk fans and I’m the Bucs fan

Interesting how this guy hit all 3.


The exact type of hire I wanted. Not a retread OC but a coach who has been a part of successful offenses that wants a shot at OC

Finally some exciting news.

[bucarican]

I was really hyped for Scottie Montgomery. When it comes to Canales, I know about as much as the next fan here. I guess we can also go with the Bootz methodology of "the Ravens interviewed him twice so he must be worth checking out".

He gots some nice arms, what a stud

[Snake]

He quacks with the best of them.

[mdb1958]

How many coaches do we still have to replace?

[Bootz]

How many coaches do we still have to replace?

8

[Cheb]

I was really hyped for Scottie Montgomery. When it comes to Canales, I know about as much as the next fan here. I guess we can also go with the Bootz methodology of "the Ravens interviewed him twice so he must be worth checking out".

Good energy and seems like a decent communicator.

Good first impressions so far.

[BucsNBills]

I was really hyped for Scottie Montgomery. When it comes to Canales, I know about as much as the next fan here. I guess we can also go with the Bootz methodology of "the Ravens interviewed him twice so he must be worth checking out".

Good energy and seems like a decent communicator.

Good first impressions so far.

Yeah I'm sure that will be a nice change for the players considering Byron and Bowles have the energy of Walking Dead zombie background extras.

[Central_Buc]

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Yeah I'm sure that will be a nice change for the players considering Byron and Bowles have the energy of Walking Dead zombie background extras.

Thinner!

[Doctor]

I'm still disappointed Scottie wasn't the pick.

I'm trying to take comfort in how the process. Despite unsupported, presumptive tweets it doesn't seem like we liked anyone enough to actually offer them the job before now. Retread Todd Monken probably had the thickest resume on paper, but he didn't even earn a second interview. Heck, he probably suggested bringing back Winston and JL told him "thanks for coming in". But really, Monken was the outlier in our pool of candidates which seem to be (fuck me) a bit more what mdb and others were looking for. Young up-and-comers.

And when you have fast-talking whipper snappers coming in to sell you that they know what they are talking about and are the next new hotness, it helps to have experienced experts to authenticate. Enter Tom Moore and Bruce Arians, who have probably forgotten more about football than any of these candidates knows. This leads me to think either all the others failed the smell test or Dave really impressed during the job interview in a way no one else did. Either that or promised Geno Smith, who knows. I'm still really concerned he's a first-time play caller. He doesn't strike me as a guy who gets it right the first time around. But if he was able to get the blessing of our own Statler and Waldorf, they must see something I don't. Which makes sense considering they are hiring him while I've never spoken to the guy and am working off wiki pages and youtube interviews.

[real bucs fan]

Seems some are unable to accept the fact we are gonna suck next year.

[Doctor]

I imagine the Seahawks board was a lot like this last year.

I'm fully prepared that we may suck next year. We have a ton of key issues that can fall on either side of the fence. And if enough of them fall on the wrong side we could very well be in competition for the top pick.

[Navybuc]

Look on the bright side…if we totally suck, we get a new HC for 2024, we get a top draft pick in a very qb-rich class next year, and supposing we draft well at OL this year, we will have good pieces in place on offense. May need to start preparing for life after Evans, though, as he gets older.

[Bootz]

Look on the bright side…if we totally suck, we get a new HC for 2024, we get a top draft pick in a very qb-rich class next year, and supposing we draft well at OL this year, we will have good pieces in place on offense. May need to start preparing for life after Evans, though, as he gets older.

Yep. The new era for our hopeful championship in 2043. Gotta start somewhere

[Buc2]

I'd like to say, trust in Licht, as some folks here like to say. But that trust got us 2022.

[Navybuc]

Look on the bright side…if we totally suck, we get a new HC for 2024, we get a top draft pick in a very qb-rich class next year, and supposing we draft well at OL this year, we will have good pieces in place on offense. May need to start preparing for life after Evans, though, as he gets older.

Yep. The new era for our hopeful championship in 2043. Gotta start somewhere

I’m a little more optimistic than that. Hope we can find our Doug Pederson out there. Feel like there’s talent on this roster…but the coaching is just very piss poor. I have no faith in Bowles. He’s proven to be nothing but garbage since his Jets days.

[These Are The Days]

Tank for Arch Manning baby

[13F11B]

Good luck with Kyle Trash, Dave!

You spelled that wrong. Why in hell would you diss a dude who has not had an opportunity? Just because he did not supplant a former first-round pick or the GOAT?

[Kona]

Look on the bright side…if we totally suck, we get a new HC for 2024, we get a top draft pick in a very qb-rich class next year, and supposing we draft well at OL this year, we will have good pieces in place on offense. May need to start preparing for life after Evans, though, as he gets older.

Yep. The new era for our hopeful championship in 2043. Gotta start somewhere

2038 if we’re going with the timeline from the 1st (2002) to 2nd (2020). Although I do hope we’re a bit more competitive this 18 year stretch. 3 SB victories in one lifetime would be a treat.

[Bootz]

Yep. The new era for our hopeful championship in 2043. Gotta start somewhere

2038 if we’re going with the timeline from the 1st (2002) to 2nd (2020). Although I do hope we’re a bit more competitive this 18 year stretch. 3 SB victories in one lifetime would be a treat.

Yea we did get a jump start this cycle.

It starts with trading for a white HC who's seen as an offensive guru, win a SB with him then he gets replaced by a black defensive coach who was already on staff. Only this time Arians retired while Gruden was fired. Bowles is the polar opposite of "youngry" so maybe he works or maybe he gets replaced by a mediocre college HC from a mediocre school too.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Sdbucs]

2038 if we’re going with the timeline from the 1st (2002) to 2nd (2020). Although I do hope we’re a bit more competitive this 18 year stretch. 3 SB victories in one lifetime would be a treat.

Yea we did get a jump start this cycle.

It starts with trading for a white HC who's seen as an offensive guru, win a SB with him then he gets replaced by a black defensive coach who was already on staff. Only this time Arians retired while Gruden was fired. Bowles is the polar opposite of "youngry" so maybe he works or maybe he gets replaced by a mediocre college HC from a mediocre school too.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Racism not even veiled anymore

[Kona]

Maybe take another stab at the Rutgers coach, whoever that may be.

[Bootz]

Maybe take another stab at the Rutgers coach, whoever that may be.

Full circle moment?

[Buc2]

Guaranteed @Kona knew exactly who the Rutgers coach is.

[Bootz]

Guaranteed @Kona knew exactly who the Rutgers coach is.

And his record is even worse than it was when we hired him. So he'd be a lock for the job!

[uscbucsfan1]

I wish we interviewed Bieniemy.

It would have been a perfect scenario for all...oh well. Sounds like he'll go to Washington.

[acmillis]

2038 if we’re going with the timeline from the 1st (2002) to 2nd (2020). Although I do hope we’re a bit more competitive this 18 year stretch. 3 SB victories in one lifetime would be a treat.

Yea we did get a jump start this cycle.

It starts with trading for a white HC who's seen as an offensive guru, win a SB with him then he gets replaced by a black defensive coach who was already on staff. Only this time Arians retired while Gruden was fired. Bowles is the polar opposite of "youngry" so maybe he works or maybe he gets replaced by a mediocre college HC from a mediocre school too.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Never go full LUGZ

[Nobody]

No idea what to make of this (nor does anyone else). Listening to him talk, listening to his energy, listening to his background, and his communication chops, he almost surely interviews very, very well. He's seems excellent on the practice field. The whole "man of faith" thing can either do well or really turn people away (depends on the locker room dynamics).

Its a complete wild card.

As to what he'll run? I mean, he's been in Seattle all these years so I expect a significant majority of Zone and plenty of Outside Zone. Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat...that doesn't play to our OL personnel strengths and actually plays to several players' weaknesses; Smith and all the potential Guards. That leaves Jensen and Wirfs. Zone does not work if you have folks who are technically unsound and/or poor in short area lateral movement.

Outside of that, I would anticipate a fair amount of play-action and 3 man routes with deep concepts and max protect off of that ZBS platform.

Lots of presnap motion and Jet action.

We'll see. No clue, but that I would be VERY surprised if we don't go from a Duo/Gap-heavy team to a ZBS-heavy team with Outside Zone ticking up quite a bit. So that definitely speaks to moving on from DSmith if nothing else.

[Grahamburn]

So that definitely speaks to moving on from DSmith if nothing else.

All the likes.

[BucsNBills]

No idea what to make of this (nor does anyone else). Listening to him talk, listening to his energy, listening to his background, and his communication chops, he almost surely interviews very, very well. He's seems excellent on the practice field. The whole "man of faith" thing can either do well or really turn people away (depends on the locker room dynamics).

Its a complete wild card.

As to what he'll run? I mean, he's been in Seattle all these years so I expect a significant majority of Zone and plenty of Outside Zone. Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat...that doesn't play to our OL personnel strengths and actually plays to several players' weaknesses; Smith and all the potential Guards. That leaves Jensen and Wirfs. Zone does not work if you have folks who are technically unsound and/or poor in short area lateral movement.

Outside of that, I would anticipate a fair amount of play-action and 3 man routes with deep concepts and max protect off of that ZBS platform.

Lots of presnap motion and Jet action.

We'll see. No clue, but that I would be VERY surprised if we don't go from a Duo/Gap-heavy team to a ZBS-heavy team with Outside Zone ticking up quite a bit. So that definitely speaks to moving on from DSmith if nothing else.

How do you think Shaq would fair?

And would a move to zone blocking hurt or help Goedeke in your opinion?

[Nobody]

@Grahamburn Cue Leo DiCaprio Toast GIF.

No idea what to make of this (nor does anyone else). Listening to him talk, listening to his energy, listening to his background, and his communication chops, he almost surely interviews very, very well. He's seems excellent on the practice field. The whole "man of faith" thing can either do well or really turn people away (depends on the locker room dynamics).

Its a complete wild card.

As to what he'll run? I mean, he's been in Seattle all these years so I expect a significant majority of Zone and plenty of Outside Zone. Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat...that doesn't play to our OL personnel strengths and actually plays to several players' weaknesses; Smith and all the potential Guards. That leaves Jensen and Wirfs. Zone does not work if you have folks who are technically unsound and/or poor in short area lateral movement.

Outside of that, I would anticipate a fair amount of play-action and 3 man routes with deep concepts and max protect off of that ZBS platform.

Lots of presnap motion and Jet action.

We'll see. No clue, but that I would be VERY surprised if we don't go from a Duo/Gap-heavy team to a ZBS-heavy team with Outside Zone ticking up quite a bit. So that definitely speaks to moving on from DSmith if nothing else.

How do you think Shaq would fair?

And would a move to zone blocking hurt or help Goedeke in your opinion?

Shaq is one of the best Gap iOL in the league. He can seal fantastically well and he's one of the best pulling Guards in the league. He's excellent doubling and climbing. He's a solid to good Inside Zone player, but he hasn't been asked to do much Outside Zone in his career. ZBS isn't his strength (though he's still a solid to + Inside Zone player) and Outside Zone is a big question mark for him due to rep counts (I have my doubts).

Goedeke? Who knows. Until he shows something more, I'm not convinced he can be a Guard in the NFL. It seemed like things just happened WAAAAAY too fast for him in there and his base + short area movement + anchor was a train-wreck. We'll see. He's going to have to be rebuilt entirely (a la Cappa...who went outside of the organization in the offseason to a professional OL coaching clinic/regime) to make it work on the inside. Though he did pass block muuuuuuch better on the interior in the Wild Card game.

He was actually pretty solid at RT in the final reg season game, so I wonder if he ultimately ends up there (whether depth or eventual starter).

We'll see on Goedeke. He's a mess technically right now (ZBS requires lateral movement skills + impeccable footwork + locked-in on assignment/rules). Trying to project him right now is like reading tea leaves or chicken bones at this point.

[Jonny]

I wish I could skip having to live through the 2023 Bucs season by running a simulation on Madden and starting a couple of days before 2024 draft.

[Buc2]

I wish I could skip having to live through the 2023 Bucs season by running a simulation on Madden and starting a couple of days before 2024 draft.

I'm too old to be skipping years. I need all the years I can get.

[Doctor]

Harold Godwin has run plenty of both zone and gap here. In fact, I actually think Dave and Harold are a good match and he'll probably keep him.

D Smith's time here is coming to a close for many reasons.

I'd like to say, trust in Licht, as some folks here like to say. But that trust got us 2022.

....

It also got us 2020.

Which far outweighs the pain of our miserable division winning season. In fact, we play this hypothetical game every few offseasons and the consensus seems to be a willingness to swallow quite a lot of misery but get a ring than be the Bills or McNabb Eagles. Also, if anyone is going to retool/rebuild us back to championship form it is probably the guy that literally just did it. And the 2022 roster is far better than the 2014 one he took over. May not take 6 years again, even so, that's nothing. The dude's been a FO executive on four different Super Bowl teams. Like, who the heck else could you possibly prefer to turn?