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Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

Poll ended at Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:48 pm

Yes - both
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76%
Yes - only Bowles
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Yes - only Leftwich
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13%
No
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11%
 
Total votes: 45

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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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Leftwich being made the scapegoat while Bowles and Licht stick around another year has been the rumor for a while now. Looks to be whats gonna go down.
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I would definitely fire Leftwich.

I MIGHT keep Bowles because I like his defenses, and I would give him the benefit of a doubt for a season so he could get a real offensive coordinator in here.
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Cheb wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:49 pm I would definitely fire Leftwich.

I MIGHT keep Bowles because I like his defenses, and I would give him the benefit of a doubt for a season so he could get a real offensive coordinator in here.
There's so much good young coaching talent out there that holding onto to old crony hires is almost an insult to them.

Bowles can stay for the tank job, that's it.
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Cheb wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:49 pm I would definitely fire Leftwich.

I MIGHT keep Bowles because I like his defenses, and I would give him the benefit of a doubt for a season so he could get a real offensive coordinator in here.
Yea a Super Bowl winning OC isn't good enough for him. He needs a real OC....
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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Central_Buc wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:50 pm Whos the fool that voted no!
My guess is that is was Bootz!
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GreatTimes wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:53 pm
Central_Buc wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:50 pm Whos the fool that voted no!
My guess is that is was Bootz!
He's still laughably defending Leftwich so I'd say so
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Nano wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:40 pm PewterReport is reporting that the team is expected to fire OC Byron Leftwich soon

https://www.pewterreport.com/leftwich-e ... d-by-bucs/
Using the term “breaking news” to describe a months old rumor about firing a struggling coach seems to me a stretch.
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Heisenberg wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:54 pm
GreatTimes wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:53 pm
My guess is that is was Bootz!
He's still laughably defending Leftwich so I'd say so
How can you defend Bowles or Leftwich after tonight? How?
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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King Bootz wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:52 pm
Cheb wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:49 pm I would definitely fire Leftwich.

I MIGHT keep Bowles because I like his defenses, and I would give him the benefit of a doubt for a season so he could get a real offensive coordinator in here.
Yea a Super Bowl winning OC isn't food enough for him. He needs a real OC....
Bruh
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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GreatTimes wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:53 pm
Central_Buc wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:50 pm Whos the fool that voted no!
My guess is that is was Bootz!
Your guess would be wrong, dumbass. You can fuck off and get off my sack, kiddo.
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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Navybuc wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:57 pm
Heisenberg wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:54 pm
He's still laughably defending Leftwich so I'd say so
How can you defend Bowles or Leftwich after tonight? How?
I mean, given Bootz tendencies, we all know why he's jumping on hand grenades for the clowns.
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Nano wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:40 pm PewterReport is reporting that the team is expected to fire OC Byron Leftwich soon

https://www.pewterreport.com/leftwich-e ... d-by-bucs/
Wow. That did not take long. The real question is will Bowles be kept. His defensive scheme is terrible and his ability to be a head coach is awful. I hope he is canned soon too.
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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Heisenberg wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:54 pm
GreatTimes wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:53 pm
My guess is that is was Bootz!
He's still laughably defending Leftwich so I'd say so
You'd be wrong. You're so thirsty for your 15 minutes. Get my name out your mouth, kiddo.
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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BucsNBills wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:00 am
Navybuc wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:57 pm

How can you defend Bowles or Leftwich after tonight? How?
I mean, given Bootz tendencies, we all know why he's jumping on hand grenades for the clowns.
Fuck off. Damn yall really have nothing else to do but keep my name in your mouth.
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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King Bootz wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:01 am
Heisenberg wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:54 pm
He's still laughably defending Leftwich so I'd say so
You'd be wrong. You're so thirsty for your 15 minutes. Get my name out your mouth, kiddo.
Please. Can you just have a normal discussion instead of littering the board with your homoerotic fantasies about not having a micropenis.
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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King Bootz wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:02 am
BucsNBills wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:00 am

I mean, given Bootz tendencies, we all know why he's jumping on hand grenades for the clowns.
Fuck off. Damn yall really have nothing else to do but keep my name in your mouth.
Don't blame us for your insufferable nature.
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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King Bootz wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:01 am
Heisenberg wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:54 pm
He's still laughably defending Leftwich so I'd say so
You'd be wrong. You're so thirsty for your 15 minutes. Get my name out your mouth, kiddo.
You're still just as retarded for defending him kiddo
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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King Bootz wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:02 am
BucsNBills wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:00 am

I mean, given Bootz tendencies, we all know why he's jumping on hand grenades for the clowns.
Fuck off. Damn yall really have nothing else to do but keep my name in your mouth.
As you keep Byron's and Bowles dicks in yours
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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13F11B wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:03 am

Please. Can you just have a normal discussion
Wait for it........
13F11B wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:03 am
instead of littering the board with your homoerotic fantasies about not having a micropenis.
You wanna talk about what now?
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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Sweet thread.
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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Doctor wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:49 pm Surely this won't be an emotional knee jerk
For at at least 2 months I’ve been Leftwich has to go. This isn’t knee jerk. I’m halfway on the Bowles firing as well. If we had the opportunity to hire Harbaugh or Sean Payton (I know I know) then I wouldn’t even second guess it.

No matter what else happens Leftwich has to go.
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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I clicked no and instantly regretted it.

I love Todd as strictly a DC.

Lefty is a guy I can't figure out. But, he is not head coach material, the Jags made the right choice.

So my answer is yes. Lefty, for sure, his play calling has been horrible.Todd, he either has to become to become full time head coach and give up DC dutties, or he can go as well. He has proven with two franchises, he can't manage both.
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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BucsNBills wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:04 am
King Bootz wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:02 am

Fuck off. Damn yall really have nothing else to do but keep my name in your mouth.
Don't blame us for your insufferable nature.
Us? As in a trio of idiots who can't stop discussing me? I don't give a fuck about you or those other dumbasses. But you're clearly all on me. Get off, kiddo.
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Cheb wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:49 pm I would definitely fire Leftwich.

I MIGHT keep Bowles because I like his defenses, and I would give him the benefit of a doubt for a season so he could get a real offensive coordinator in here.
This is the only saving grace with Bowles. He never had the opportunity to get his own OC so maybe it would be better. However I will shed no tears if we hear that the entire staff has been fired.
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King Bootz wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:06 am
BucsNBills wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:04 am

Don't blame us for your insufferable nature.
Us? As in a trio of idiots who can't stop discussing me? I don't give a fuck about you or those other dumbasses. But you're clearly all on me. Get off, kiddo.
You're a shit starter in every thread you infect. It's been that way for a very long time now

You made your bed, now lay in it
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Miller4Prez64 wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:49 pm Leftwich being made the scapegoat while Bowles and Licht stick around another year has been the rumor for a while now. Looks to be whats gonna go down.
Is it really a scapegoat when you deserve to be fired?
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BucsNBills wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:08 am
King Bootz wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:06 am

Us? As in a trio of idiots who can't stop discussing me? I don't give a fuck about you or those other dumbasses. But you're clearly all on me. Get off, kiddo.
You're a shit starter in every thread you infect. It's been that way for a very long time now

You made your bed, now lay in it
Oh so you like being on my dick. Got it.
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real bucs fan wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:02 pm Arians truly was a great coach. Him retiring really fucked everything.
I’m on record hating the way Arians’ reputation was tarnished with the Brady rumors. The fans around here never appreciated that Arians’ was a fucking great coach. I remember Brady getting all the credit and even now see some fans saying the great offensive years were due to Brady overriding Arians.

This year we see what Brady looks like in this offense without Arians. No thank you.
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Primeminister wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:09 am
Miller4Prez64 wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:49 pm Leftwich being made the scapegoat while Bowles and Licht stick around another year has been the rumor for a while now. Looks to be whats gonna go down.
Is it really a scapegoat when you deserve to be fired?
He does deserve it, yes. But if he’s the only person losing their job, then he’s the scapegoat of the staff. Because the problems are bigger than Leftwich.
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Re: Should Bowles and Leftwich be fired?

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King Bootz wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:52 pm
Cheb wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:49 pm I would definitely fire Leftwich.

I MIGHT keep Bowles because I like his defenses, and I would give him the benefit of a doubt for a season so he could get a real offensive coordinator in here.
Yea a Super Bowl winning OC isn't good enough for him. He needs a real OC....
The offense regressed under Leftwich the minute Arians wasn't on the sidelines.

I've said it before many times because it's true, and I'll say it again now because it's relevant. When an individual student fails an exam, that's on the student. When the entire class fails, that's on the teacher, for good or ill.

Leftwich's entire room has sucked balls all year, and regressed in a major way across the board the minute his mentor moved into his goofy administrative-but-not-really role. Is everything his fault, no. But the fact that his offenses plummeted like a stone in nearly every metric that matters is damning enough, for me at least, to not want to see him back on our sideline next season.

Leftwich this season was far closer to his Arizona offenses than the ones he coordinated for us the past few seasons. A reasonable person could argue that Leftwich has shown his true mettle now that Arians ain't there to hold his hand, and I wouldn't really have a logical leg to stand on if I disagreed with that person.
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Cheb wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:32 am
King Bootz wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:52 pm

Yea a Super Bowl winning OC isn't good enough for him. He needs a real OC....
The offense regressed under Leftwich the minute Arians wasn't on the sidelines.

I've said it before many times because it's true, and I'll say it again now because it's relevant. When an individual student fails an exam, that's on the student. When the entire class fails, that's on the teacher, for good or ill.

Leftwich's entire room has sucked balls all year, and regressed in a major way across the board the minute his mentor moved into his goofy administrative-but-not-really role. Is everything his fault, no. But the fact that his offenses plummeted like a stone in nearly every metric that matters is damning enough, for me at least, to not want to see him back on our sideline next season.

Leftwich this season was far closer to his Arizona offenses than the ones he coordinated for us the past few seasons. A reasonable person could argue that Leftwich has shown his true mettle now that Arians ain't there to hold his hand, and I wouldn't really have a logical leg to stand on if I disagreed with that person.
And everyone sees how obvious this is except one person on here. Lefty had full control this season without daddy Arians rewriting his shit game plans and this is what we get.
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_MB_ wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:38 pm
Central_Buc wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:50 pm Whos the fool that voted no!
I'm your huckleberry
Well, it looks like you will be half-way happy with the outcome. You get Bowles back at least, sorry about Lefty.
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This will all come down to Brady. Give Brady what he wants has been our modus operandi since we won the Super Bowl. If he returns, I don't see that changing. So it comes down to... does Brady want to keep Lefty? Given that the juicy rumor last year was that Brady pushed out the best offensive mind he's ever played under in an apparent "thanks but I got it from here" maneuver, I'm not entirely sure who he would have us bring over.

And make no mistake, if Brady decides to return and NOT keep Lefty he will 100% be given final approval on the next OC.
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Snake wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:05 amSweet thread.
That's some stinky pussy right there.
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Brazen331 wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:39 am
_MB_ wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 11:38 pm

I'm your huckleberry
Well, it looks like you will be half-way happy with the outcome. You get Bowles back at least, sorry about Lefty.
Of course Leftwich is out. Only you couldn't see that one coming.
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