The Official 2023 NFL Off-Season Thread

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King Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:52 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:48 pm Do we want Caleb Williams and how easy could it be for us to make it happen
Is he coming out this year?
Yeah wouldnt that be something, him not coming out next year if we had the number one. That would be speaking to our organization, our state, and our fans.
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Whoa
Saints’ WR Michael Thomas may be released this offseason after agreeing to a restructured contract.

Thomas, 29, had his 2023 base salary reduced from $15.5 million to $1.165 million while adding a $31.755 million roster bonus that is due on March 17th, per NOF]].

There is also another $30M bonus included if Thomas is active for four games next season, which would cost the Saints more than $60M if he’s on their roster beyond March 17th, per NOF]].

Thomas was given a $902,941 signing bonus to sign the deal.

Here are the implications of the deal via NOF]]:

The restructure “lower’s Thomas’ cap number by about $14 million. And what it almost certainly means is that Thomas got cut on paper with the official move to follow. This is the same type of deal that Drew Brees and Malcolm Jenkins did before retiring.”

All things considered, it’s likely that Thomas’ tenure in New Orleans is coming to an end after seven seasons.

Thomas appeared in three games and caught 16 passes for 171 receiving yards and three touchdowns. He suffered a toe injury that forced him to miss the remainder of the season.
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King Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:52 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:48 pm Do we want Caleb Williams and how easy could it be for us to make it happen
Is he coming out this year?
No, maybe next year
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King Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:52 pm
mdb1958 wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:48 pm Do we want Caleb Williams and how easy could it be for us to make it happen
Is he coming out this year?
If we have the #1 pick? Lol. Probably not.
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King Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:55 am $275mil with $133 guaranteed is a joke( in relation to his peers)and they know it.

If I'm Lamar, I got to Harbaugh and ask him to get rid of Greg Roman and get an OC who runs a traditional system. He'll do just fine in that type of system. His weaknesses as a passer are no worse than guys like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray or Justin Herbert. He doesn't have the talent around him like they do and has been type cast because he's a top 1% athlete at the QB position.
Could be a huge indication that they will try to keep Lamar.

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Ravens fans are over the moon. To say the least. Huge outpouring of support for the move.
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Snake wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:01 pm Ravens fans are over the moon. To say the least. Huge outpouring of support for the move.
The fact Roman refused to evolve his offense to use Lamar’s arm more has simply become indefensible. I don’t blame fans running the man out of town.
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King Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:11 pm
King Bootz wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:55 am $275mil with $133 guaranteed is a joke( in relation to his peers)and they know it.

If I'm Lamar, I got to Harbaugh and ask him to get rid of Greg Roman and get an OC who runs a traditional system. He'll do just fine in that type of system. His weaknesses as a passer are no worse than guys like Josh Allen, Kyler Murray or Justin Herbert. He doesn't have the talent around him like they do and has been type cast because he's a top 1% athlete at the QB position.
Could be a huge indication that they will try to keep Lamar.

Thanks to @BucsNBills for making that terrifyingly realistic “Lamar to the Falcons” post (fucking asshole) I now need to pull for Lamar to stay in Baltimore. Just stay TF away from the South.
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Snake wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:01 pm Ravens fans are over the moon. To say the least. Huge outpouring of support for the move.
He's terrible. He tried to treat Lamar like he was Alex Smith or Colin Kaepernick. He's a far better passer than both of them and Roman never tried to expand upon Lamar's passing abilities.
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Yep. Just as I thought. Lamar definitely had this on his list of things Baltimore needs to do.



For Baltimore, you'd want to find an OC who can utilize ALL of Lamar Jackson's tools as a QB for a more efficient, diverse offense and for his long term health.
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More coordinator firings today. 5 of the 6 teams that lost Wildcard weekend fired at least 1 of their coordinators.




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Joe Burrow is going to get ane extension this off season and I'm interested in the approach he'll take. He's the one QB that I think would be capable of thinking big picture and valuing his legacy more than just...having more money.

When you factor in both Tee Higgins and Chase are on the verge of getting paid, Burrow may have to choose between losing one of this receivers or paying himself more.

It would be hilarious if he said Fuck it...just pay me like $30 mil a year, fully guaranteed, and write me a $100 mil check right now. It would massively disrupt the QB market and allow the Bengals to spend more on the team, extending their window.

Of course it almost certainly won't happen, but it would be incredible if it did.
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0% chance that happens.
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King Bootz wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:15 am 0% chance that happens.
I don't care. Would be hilarious, and very smart on Burrow's part, if it did.
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BucsNBills wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:17 am
King Bootz wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:15 am 0% chance that happens.
I don't care. Would be hilarious, and very smart on Burrow's part, if it did.
Burrow's agent would never allow that to happen. Agents work along side each other with the goal of securing their clients financial futures, at all levels.

Allowing a premium player to take less than market value disrupts the market as you explained. It would mess up hundreds on players in this league, including his own teammates. It would also in turn eventually have an impact on the salary cap value.

I get what you're saying, but it ain't happening.
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King Bootz wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:15 am 0% chance that happens.
This, and with the cap increasing each year, signing Burrow now to the highest paid QB salary ever is probably a great deal three years from now.
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Had to happen. That’s good news for Pats fans.

He’s not elite, but he’s better than Fatricia and Judge.
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I just realized Schefter's tweet is inaccurate. O'Brien wasn't hired at Bama until after the National Championship game in 2021. So he and Mac Jones wouldn't have worked together as Mac skipped his senior year to go pro.
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We connected to anyone besides Monken yet?
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Not even sure we're really connected to Monken.
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And here I thought the Jets were on the rise.
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Maybe he’s a really good OC. Lol
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Aaron Rodgers to the Jets?
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Snake wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:34 am Maybe he’s a really good OC. Lol
Remember that thing you said about Nepotism? Yea..
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Jets gonna Jet.
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I wonder if they balked at the Saints asking price for Payton.

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Phantom wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 11:36 am Aaron Rodgers to the Jets?
Seem to be the play. Rightfully so too.
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Frank Reich to Carolina? Oh boy lol

Edit: he need a right QB tho

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Reich went from one QB carousel to another.
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Thank God
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This is fantastic.
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I’d pay good money to follow an owner and FO around during a HC search. Seriously.
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I have a feeling Reich will turn the team around, but I am shocked the interim coach did not get the gig with the job he did.
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