2023 Playoffs General Discussion

[Snake]

Staley, once again thinking he's the smartest man on the field,

I’m guessing most head coaches are like this. But he certainly flaunts it.

[Phantom]

Sounds like it could be a downpour in San Fran Saturday

I think 49ers will be fine. They've played several games in rainy conditions.

[Sdbucs]

Mike Williams out for the Chargers. Staley, once again thinking he's the smartest man on the field, plays everyone in a meaningless game and gets his best WR hurt for his franchise QBs first playoff game.

I truly hope the Chargers do the right thing by firing their clown HC and brings in a real HC like Payton.

This is a bad take. Football players play football. Some get hurt, some don't. If he got hurt in practice this week, would you call the coach dumb?
Our game last week didn't matter and Brady made it out unscathed.

But Mike Will getting hurt is EXACTLY why you shouldn’t risk your starters in a meaningless game.

The Chargers are a worse team without Mike Will, just as we would be a worse team without Evans or Godwin.

Sure, we made it out unscathed. But the risk taken by playing starters is obviously not worth it see injury to Mike Will.

Do you honestly think we gained anything playing starters for the 1st half? Kept any “momentum”?

Did the Chargers maintain enough “momentum” playing their starters to make up for losing Mike Will?

It was moronic to play starters for either team.

[GoldenBudda]

Dallas has never won a playoff game in their dark navy jerseys.

I'm glad we're wearing white so Dallas can't. My favorite combo is the red jersey and pewter pants with the orange stripe down the side. Dope

[King Bootz]

Mike Williams out for the Chargers. Staley, once again thinking he's the smartest man on the field, plays everyone in a meaningless game and gets his best WR hurt for his franchise QBs first playoff game.

I truly hope the Chargers do the right thing by firing their clown HC and brings in a real HC like Payton.

This is a bad take. Football players play football. Some get hurt, some don't. If he got hurt in practice this week, would you call the coach dumb?
Our game last week didn't matter and Brady made it out unscathed.

Agreed. If he had gotten hurt on the 1st play of the playoff game, no one would say anything about Staley playing him. The thought that Williams was somehow more susceptible to injury in week 18 than he was in week 17 or week 10 or Wildcard weekend is ridiculous.

[BucsNBills]

Who said he was more susceptible? It was a meaningless game that Williams got hurt in. He's known to be injury prone, same with Bosa who also got banged up and Derwin James who's made of glass.

It was dumb decision, plain and simple.

Him getting hurt in the playoff game is not even the same ballpark as getting hurt in a week 18 game that can do nothing for the team in the standings.

[Snake]

He was more susceptible because he was playing. he wouldn’t be susceptible to injury (via playing football) if he wasn’t playing. That’s about it.

[acmillis]

He was more susceptible because he was playing. he wouldn’t be susceptible to injury (via playing football) if he wasn’t playing. That’s about it.

So players shouldn’t practice ever because they might get hurt playing football in a meaningless practice that means nothing.

[Snake]

I don’t think that’s a comparable situation but sure

[King Bootz]

Brady is susceptible to being Hurt Monday. If Bowels were worth a damn, he'd start Trask so Brady won't get injured.

[Snake]

Brady is susceptible to being Hurt Monday. If Bowels were worth a damn, he'd start Trask so Brady won't get injured.

That game is consequential. Wasn’t the Chargers game going to have no playoff implications for the Chargers?

[King Bootz]

Brady is susceptible to being Hurt Monday. If Bowels were worth a damn, he'd start Trask so Brady won't get injured.

That game is consequential. Wasn’t the Chargers game going to have no playoff implications for the Chargers?

What's the argument? That injuries during consequential games are better? Do you get credit if a player is hurt during a consequential game?

[CantonJester]

That game is consequential. Wasn’t the Chargers game going to have no playoff implications for the Chargers?

What's the argument? That injuries during consequential games are better? Do you get credit if a player is hurt during a consequential game?

The argument is that Williams got hurt in a game that held zero playoff implications for the Chargers. Wondering whether or not Brady should play in a game that has playoff implications isn't even whataboutism. It's just a complete non sequitur.

[BucsNBills]

You're right. We should start playing our starters for all four quarters during preseason games as well. It doesnt matter when a player gets hurt so may as well get them out there for more snaps.

If we lose Wirfs or Evans for the year during a preseason game, then so be it

[Snake]

Yeah, it’s about risk mitigation. Of course players can get hurt during the games of consequence. The point is making them available for the games of consequence. And not risking them being unavailable, due to getting hurt in a game that didn’t matter.

[Doctor]

Because it's a more meaningful injury if they get hurt during a game that matters

[BucsNBills]

It's just another classic thread derailment tactic. No point in giving it anymore attention. It's futile discussing something in good faith with a contrarian.

[CantonJester]

Because it's a more meaningful injury if they get hurt during a game that matters

The Klingon team goes hard AF during those games.

[King Bootz]

Yeah, it’s about risk mitigation. Of course players can get hurt during the games of consequence. The point is making them available for the games of consequence. And not risking them being unavailable, due to getting hurt in a game that didn’t matter.

You just made an argument for players never practicing.

[Snake]

Yeah, it’s about risk mitigation. Of course players can get hurt during the games of consequence. The point is making them available for the games of consequence. And not risking them being unavailable, due to getting hurt in a game that didn’t matter.

You just made an argument for players never practicing.

I think it’s one reason they have scaled back contact in practice to the degree they have.

I also think there’s a risk/benefit analysis. Yeah, there’s a chance a guy tears an achilles tendon running routes in practice. But what are the chances? Are the benefits of practicing and having good timing, good rhythm, etc. worth the one in X chance of tearing achilles?

Look at the preseason example that has been used. Why don’t the starters play all 16 quarters?

Why are starters pulled in a blowout?

It’s just applying the same mentality to another game.

I don’t personally think that playing a full contact game that is inconsequential to playoff implications is worth whatever benefit.

[Moozician]

Brady is susceptible to being Hurt Monday. If Bowels were worth a damn, he'd start Trask so Brady won't get injured.

Man, you're obtuse AF today...

[King Bootz]

Brady is susceptible to being Hurt Monday. If Bowels were worth a damn, he'd start Trask so Brady won't get injured.

Man, you're obtuse AF today...

Let's be real here, people only started using that description because they thought their opinions meant way more than they actually did.

[Moozician]

Man, you're obtuse AF today...

Let's be real here, people only started using that description because they thought their opinions meant way more than they actually did.

Be real?
C'mon Bootz, you already know all this shit.
If a game has little consequence (like the Atlanta game) Pulling starters early isn't a bad idea. Even sitting some starters out, especially if they are still recovering from injury is ideal.

Or in a blowout, (Bucs up 37 - 3 in the third quarter) you pull your starters and hopefully your opponent does, as well. So now you've got guys out there that have little real game experience playing. But they are learning, and that experience MAY be invaluable later. Of course, somebody, playing in a televised game is trying to "make hisself known" torques up and hurts someone, putting them out a few games.

If you DON'T pull your starters, the same thing might happen. Some defensive lineman, pissed off because he's not having a good game crushes your starting QB. It was all unnecessary.

In practices, don't guys go like 3 qtr speed? Fights occur when players hit too hard (Titans/Bucs training camp).

But I know that you already know all this stuff, so why the blowup?

[MJW]

Mike Williams out for the Chargers. Staley, once again thinking he's the smartest man on the field, plays everyone in a meaningless game and gets his best WR hurt for his franchise QBs first playoff game.

I truly hope the Chargers do the right thing by firing their clown HC and brings in a real HC like Payton.

This is a bad take. Football players play football. Some get hurt, some don't. If he got hurt in practice this week, would you call the coach dumb?
Our game last week didn't matter and Brady made it out unscathed.

Respectfully disagree. Strongly.

The difference between game hits and practice hits, even physical practices, is huge.

I get the logic behind going through your normal practice schedule and routines before a meaningless (you know what I mean) type game. Routines are huge. But to then put your most value assets in harm's way for an extended period of time in game situations because....something something leather helmets and manliness something...that makes no sense to me.

I loathe the whole, "you play to win the game" mentality. No. You play to win championships. Risking losing someone who increases your odds of doing that because you're making some point is horrid risk management.

[acmillis]

This is a bad take. Football players play football. Some get hurt, some don't. If he got hurt in practice this week, would you call the coach dumb?
Our game last week didn't matter and Brady made it out unscathed.

Respectfully disagree. Strongly.

The difference between game hits and practice hits, even physical practices, is huge.

I get the logic behind going through your normal practice schedule and routines before a meaningless (you know what I mean) type game. Routines are huge. But to then put your most value assets in harm's way for an extended period of time in game situations because....something something leather helmets and manliness something...that makes no sense to me.

I loathe the whole, "you play to win the game" mentality. No. You play to win championships. Risking losing someone who increases your odds of doing that because you're making some point is horrid risk management.

I see both sides, I just don’t think there should be any blame, you know. A dude got hurt, tough titty.

[MJW]

Respectfully disagree. Strongly.

The difference between game hits and practice hits, even physical practices, is huge.

I get the logic behind going through your normal practice schedule and routines before a meaningless (you know what I mean) type game. Routines are huge. But to then put your most value assets in harm's way for an extended period of time in game situations because....something something leather helmets and manliness something...that makes no sense to me.

I loathe the whole, "you play to win the game" mentality. No. You play to win championships. Risking losing someone who increases your odds of doing that because you're making some point is horrid risk management.

I see both sides, I just don’t think there should be any blame, you know. A dude got hurt, tough titty.

Fair.

[nybf]

He was more susceptible because he was playing. he wouldn’t be susceptible to injury (via playing football) if he wasn’t playing. That’s about it.

So players shouldn’t practice ever because they might get hurt playing football in a meaningless practice that means nothing.

Brady is susceptible to being Hurt Monday. If Bowels were worth a damn, he'd start Trask so Brady won't get injured.

When you move the goal posts to a different continent.

[nybf]

Brady is susceptible to being Hurt Monday. If Bowels were worth a damn, he'd start Trask so Brady won't get injured.

Man, you're obtuse AF today...

Today?

[mdb1958]

I will pick Seattle to win today

[BucsNBills]

Man the 49ers game looks so good in 4k hdr. Can't wait until that's the norm for all games

[Kress]

Surprised Geno didn't lose that ball.

[Phantom]

That was beautiful throw by Brock. Too bad it’s not a touchdown

[Kress]

That was beautiful throw by Brock. Too bad it’s not a touchdown

Beautiful throw, but late. That's what separates guys like Brady from the rest. That ball comes out earlier, and it's a TD.

[Buc2]

Purdy settles down, this will be a long game for the Seahawks. I believe I may have picked the wrong winner for this game. lol

[The Outsider]

How in the hell did Woolen fall all the way to the 5th at 6'4 with 4.26 speed?