***Official 2023 NFL Draft Thread***

[Phantom]

Buckeye QBs don’t transition well to the NFL. Here’s hoping the Panthers draft Stroud

[Grahamburn]

Any chance one of these TEs could be BPA at 19? I haven't scouted them too much.

I had this fleeting thought where they draft Mayer and then just wallop people in the run game, but that really seems like a waste of resources. I’d bet on him being a ten year vet as much as anyone though.

Then Kincaid entered my mind as another receiving threat. But, he seems bust-ish to me with the lack of blocking ability.

I really think they just need to hope for one of the tackles. Immediate need meets best player meets best chance for long term starter impact.

[Doctor]

Let's assume 4 QBs go before us. So can we get a big board of at least 15? I've got 12 I'd be very happy with:

Anderson, Carter, Bijan, Branch, Peter, Paris, Broderick, Anton, Gonzalez, Witherspoon, Nolan, Ojulari...

[mdb1958]

Let's assume 4 QBs go before us. So can we get a big board of at least 15? I've got 12 I'd be very happy with:

Anderson, Carter, Bijan, Branch, Peter, Paris, Broderick, Anton, Gonzalez, Witherspoon, Nolan, Ojulari...

What board you looking at? Is it the only one you want to look at?

[Doctor]

I'm saying lets come up with one

[mdb1958]

I'm saying lets come up with one

Fanspeak has 11 different boards or should I say prospect lists. Then there is PFF and PFN. NFL draft fan nation, tankathon, cbs.

[Grahamburn]

Let's assume 4 QBs go before us. So can we get a big board of at least 15? I've got 12 I'd be very happy with:

Anderson, Carter, Bijan, Branch, Peter, Paris, Broderick, Anton, Gonzalez, Witherspoon, Nolan, Ojulari...

Tyree Wilson. Lukas Van Ness. Joey Jr.

[mdb1958]

Let's assume 4 QBs go before us. So can we get a big board of at least 15? I've got 12 I'd be very happy with:

Anderson, Carter, Bijan, Branch, Peter, Paris, Broderick, Anton, Gonzalez, Witherspoon, Nolan, Ojulari...

Tyree Wilson. Lukas Van Ness. Joey Jr.

I think Tyree would excel here - I'd want him and his 36 inch arms over all of them.

[Snake]

Fascinating

[Phantom]

Let's assume 4 QBs go before us. So can we get a big board of at least 15? I've got 12 I'd be very happy with:

Anderson, Carter, Bijan, Branch, Peter, Paris, Broderick, Anton, Gonzalez, Witherspoon, Nolan, Ojulari...

Honest I think 5 qbs go before us

[BucsNBills]

Let's assume 4 QBs go before us. So can we get a big board of at least 15? I've got 12 I'd be very happy with:

Anderson, Carter, Bijan, Branch, Peter, Paris, Broderick, Anton, Gonzalez, Witherspoon, Nolan, Ojulari...

Honest I think 5 qbs go before us

Who's the 5th? McKee?

[BucsNBills]

Tyree Wilson. Lukas Van Ness. Joey Jr.

I think Tyree would excel here - I'd want him and his 36 inch arms over all of them.

He's built to be a 5 tech.

[Phantom]

Honest I think 5 qbs go before us

Who's the 5th? McKee?

Hooker

[Grahamburn]

Who's the 5th? McKee?

Hooker

No. 3: Hendon Hooker, Tennessee

“Why is this guy not getting more buzz? What is there not to like? … All I know is I saw a really good-looking, on the money, pocket passing quarterback who makes great decisions, and like C.J. Stroud, is way more athletic than people are giving him credit for. And where he might be even better than C.J. Stroud, and definitely better than Bryce Young, is his ability to see over the line and throw over the line…Totally unaffected by the pass rush. That’s where I give him tons of credit. Decision-making, that’s another one where I go it’s really off-the-charts good. The amount of NFL, high-level throws. I just mean in the pocket, 12-yard out route. In the pocket, trash around you, 15-yard in-cut…he does all of that. That’s where I loved Hendon Hooker. His motion is not my favorite. He’s a natural thrower of the football, but his motion is a little too vertical…There’s the ACL and the age thing, that’s the concern with Hendon Hooker. If you’re going off film, I don’t know how he’s not in the top quarterback conversation.” - Chris Simms

[Grahamburn]

@MJW told me he doesn't make NFL high level throws. :shrug:

[_MB_]

@MJW told me he doesn't make NFL high level throws. :shrug:

Mike Evans is to Johnny Manziel as Jalin Hyatt is to Hendon Hooker.


Hooker is a better prospect than Manziel, but Hyatt is the star in Tennessee

[BucsNBills]

Latest Daniel Jeremiah mock on NFL.com has Will Levis dropping to us at 19. I'd be down for that.

[Bootz]

He also has Atlanta and Vegas passing on QBs. I call bullshit

[Doctor]

Not all teams just take a QB because they need a QB.

Your staff needs to actually like and believe in the guy on the board.

[BucsNBills]

He also has Atlanta and Vegas passing on QBs. I call bullshit

Didn't Vegas sign Jimmy G to a decently large contract? And Atlanta might like Ridder or not want to pass on a very good player for the chance at drafting the 4th best QB.

Who knows.

In the event Levis is there at 19 I think his upside warrants the selection and if we whiff, well it's only the 19th selection, so no big loss.

[Grahamburn]

@MJW told me he doesn't make NFL high level throws. :shrug:

Mike Evans is to Johnny Manziel as Jalin Hyatt is to Hendon Hooker.


Hooker is a better prospect than Manziel, but Hyatt is the star in Tennessee

That system definitely inflated Hooker a bit. The super wide sets and up tempo caused a lot of confusion leading to big separation and even wide open guys. Not to say Hooker can’t make tight window throws like he’ll have to in the NFL. He just didn’t have to in college.

[Grahamburn]

I thought that comment or at least the wording of it from Simms was odd. Hooker made NFL type throws. 12 yard out. 15 yard in. BUT, they weren’t in tight windows.

[mdb1958]

I think Tyree would excel here - I'd want him and his 36 inch arms over all of them.

He's built to be a 5 tech.

No, he'd be all over that line with my 2 deep rotation.

[BucsNBills]

Another mock. 12 formation all day with crazy run blocking additions in Jones and Bergeron. LaPorta is a nice compliment to Otton as he gives us a much faster option at TE. And Perry gives us an outside WR threat which we currently lack outside of Evans.

[Snake]

Any mock without Moss to the Bucs isn’t a real mock in my book!

[mdb1958]

Any mock without Moss to the Bucs isn’t a real mock in my book!

Who is Moss?

[Snake]

Any mock without Moss to the Bucs isn’t a real mock in my book!

Who is Moss?

Riley

[mdb1958]

2 priority free agents!

Malaesala Aumavae-Laulu
OT Oregon

Quinton Barrow
OT Grand Valley State

[mdb1958]

This guy? I need to know this guy! Went in the 7th.


Yasir Abdullah
LB Louisville


https://gocards.com/sports/football/ros ... llah/12679

[BucsNBills]

First Full Round 1 Mock

[Snake]

That seems like an appropriate placement for Levis.

[mdb1958]

Mock Draft Results

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ROUND 1

CAR
1. Bryce Young
QB Alabama
HOU
2. Anthony Richardson
QB Florida
ARI
3. Jalen Carter
DT Georgia
IND
4. C.J. Stroud
QB Ohio State
SEA
5. Will Anderson Jr.
EDGE Alabama
ATL
6. Paris Johnson Jr.
OT Ohio State
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LV
7. Christian Gonzalez
CB Oregon
DET
8.Jordan Addison
WR USC
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CHI
9. Quentin Johnston
WR TCU
PHI
10. Joey Porter Jr.
CB Penn State
TEN
11. Broderick Jones
OT Georgia
HOU
12. Myles Murphy
EDGE Clemson
TB
13. Tyree Wilson
EDGE Texas Tech
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NE
14. Bryan Bresee
DT Clemson
GB
15. Jaxon Smith-Njigba
WR Ohio State
WAS
16. Trenton Simpson
LB Clemson
PIT
17. Devon Witherspoon
CB Illinois
DET
18. Bijan Robinson
RB Texas
NYJ
19. Peter Skoronski
OT Northwestern
trade icon
SEA
20. Clark Phillips III
CB Utah
LAC
21. Anton Harrison
OT Oklahoma
BAL
22. Cam Smith
CB South Carolina
MIN
23. Brian Branch
S Alabama
JAX
24. Lukas Van Ness
EDGE Iowa
NYG
25. Kelee Ringo
CB Georgia
DAL
26. Jalin Hyatt
WR Tennessee
BUF
27. Jahmyr Gibbs
RB Alabama
CIN
28. Michael Mayer
TE Notre Dame
NO
29. B.J. Ojulari
EDGE LSU
PHI
30. Isaiah Foskey
EDGE Notre Dame
KC
31. Josh Downs
WR North Carolina

[Doctor]

Two trade ups and no Branch or Bijan? I could scream.

I actually have a feeling Levis will end up being the best QB in this draft.

[mdb1958]

Two trade ups and no Branch or Bijan? I could scream.

I actually have a feeling Levis will end up being the best QB in this draft.

Mine was done on auto by PFN, it's the only one I know of that will do that and as much as I like that player I would not do that trade (which was for our 2nd). However I would have done a 2nd in 2024. Maybe? I keep trying to configure for (Tuli) because I think he could be a key piece for a four man rush.

Tyree and Tuli would be an utter miracle.

[Doctor]

I'm not sold on Tyree. I do like Tuli in the 2nd a lot though.