That $2.8mil we bout to save from cutting Pinion is going towards Licht’s bonus.
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Didn't Jimmy G play for Eastern Kentucky or something?
I think Belichick is looking for value and upside everywhere. He must see something with a glimmer there.
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Just saying… Run through the roster. Tell me where one of these fringe prospects sneaks on there. Punter is mandatory. Might as well improve the player and save some money. I get it from that perspective, I guess.Snake wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:37 pmTom Brady won't be a Buccaneer after this season. I understand the desire to improve on the margins, but we're talking about a punter in the 4th round.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:35 pm Glass half full: The roster is so stacked there aren’t any position players available that’ll make the final 53 or even practice squad. Hence, punter.
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I wish they would have made some of these trades for 2023 picks.
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They’ve been pretty successful the last couple seasons.King Bootz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:39 pmExcept this roster isn't that stacked. It's not even close.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:35 pm Glass half full: The roster is so stacked there aren’t any position players available that’ll make the final 53 or even practice squad. Hence, punter.
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I’m a fan of the pick. 2.8 million dollars is huge savings when you have value available. Makes UDFA findings so much more important.
We can now negotiate with Gronk for some more money. Maybe even cut Brate now that we have an identical player as well.
This draft may be safe or may be awful. I’m kinda mad Stout went 4 picks earlier. Stout changed games at PSU.
We can now negotiate with Gronk for some more money. Maybe even cut Brate now that we have an identical player as well.
This draft may be safe or may be awful. I’m kinda mad Stout went 4 picks earlier. Stout changed games at PSU.
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Corner. DL. Edge. TE at this even with Otton. ILB.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:42 pmJust saying… Run through the roster. Tell me where one of these fringe prospects sneaks on there. Punter is mandatory. Might as well improve the player and save some money. I get it from that perspective, I guess.
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I'll give you TB12 reasons why this team has had the success it's had. Let's not be dense here.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:44 pmThey’ve been pretty successful the last couple seasons.King Bootz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:39 pm
Except this roster isn't that stacked. It's not even close.
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We better use some of that money saved from cutting Pinion on some corner depth. We are an injury away from practice squad guys covering top NFL receivers like last year.
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No one gonna do a welcome thread for the once in a generation punter?
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I’ve never heard of a draft pick being touted as a success because it helps you save money on the margins of the roster. Holy hell.
Watch Pinion win the job because the kid shits the bed and Tom Brady doesn’t want him anywhere near the team. You heard it here first.
Watch Pinion win the job because the kid shits the bed and Tom Brady doesn’t want him anywhere near the team. You heard it here first.
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That $2.8mil is irrelevant in the immediate future and long term as well. Plus, it won't even be a full $2.8mil as part of it will be offset by whatever the new guys cap # is.
But it's draft day. People will say anything to justify and find the silver lining in all of the moves we make. Hell Licht could turn around and draft punters with our 2 7th round picks, there will be some who justify it.
But it's draft day. People will say anything to justify and find the silver lining in all of the moves we make. Hell Licht could turn around and draft punters with our 2 7th round picks, there will be some who justify it.
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Pat McAfee approves of the pick.
Makes me feel a little better…I guess?
Makes me feel a little better…I guess?
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Pinion averaged 42.5 yards last year. Camarda 46.6. They just drafted over 4 yards per punt. Not insignificant.
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NoVauntedTampa2 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:54 pm Pat McAfee approves of the pick.
Makes me feel a little better…I guess?
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Not gonna lie, it’s hilarious nobody wants to make this welcome thread.King Bootz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:49 pm No one gonna do a welcome thread for the once in a generation punter?
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There’s a lot of context missing from this. This kid very well may be an upgrade. But those numbers don’t mean terribly much. Pinion averaged 45.2 in 2020. Did they draft 1.5 yards of upgrade if this was last season?Grahamburn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 1:56 pm Pinion averaged 42.5 yards last year. Camarda 46.6. They just drafted over 4 yards per punt. Not insignificant.
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Guess they really wanted a punter and didn’t think he’d be there in the 7th. Reports say he should have a long career, but using a 4th when we have like 2 legit starting CBs and only one beyond this season is interesting. We still haven’t learned we need depth there.
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Davis is here. Who's the other legit corner?Heisenberg wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:02 pm Guess they really wanted a punter and didn’t think he’d be there in the 7th. Reports say he should have a long career, but using a 4th when we have like 2 legit starting CBs and only one beyond this season is interesting. We still haven’t learned we need depth there.
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As usual I will wait to judge this draft but I gotta say, I love the move of drafting a P in the 4th for the troll factor alone. Beautiful.
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No one gets excited about a punter pick, but pretending that a fourth round rookie corner is going to see meaningful snaps ahead of Jamel Dean, SMB, and Logan Ryan is obtuse.Heisenberg wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:02 pm Guess they really wanted a punter and didn’t think he’d be there in the 7th. Reports say he should have a long career, but using a 4th when we have like 2 legit starting CBs and only one beyond this season is interesting. We still haven’t learned we need depth there.
Although you ain't wrong about building DB depth for the future.
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I wanted to say one but people always try correcting me to convince themselves otherwise lol, didn’t wanna argue so just said 2. But I agree it’s really only Davis.King Bootz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:05 pmDavis is here. Who's the other legit corner?Heisenberg wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:02 pm Guess they really wanted a punter and didn’t think he’d be there in the 7th. Reports say he should have a long career, but using a 4th when we have like 2 legit starting CBs and only one beyond this season is interesting. We still haven’t learned we need depth there.
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Not sure how a punt is gonna help our secondary from getting torched. But it’s apparent we’re going with the hope Tom Brady wins every shootout in the playoffs approach.
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No one is saying they'd expect a rookie corner to see snaps ahead of our top 3 (Logan Ryan is playing safety now).Cheb wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:08 pmNo one gets excited about a punter pick, but pretending that a fourth round rookie corner is going to see meaningful snaps ahead of Jamel Dean, SMB, and Logan Ryan is obtuse.Heisenberg wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:02 pm Guess they really wanted a punter and didn’t think he’d be there in the 7th. Reports say he should have a long career, but using a 4th when we have like 2 legit starting CBs and only one beyond this season is interesting. We still haven’t learned we need depth there.
Although you ain't wrong about building DB depth for the future.
But you're not blind. All 3 of our top corners missed time due to injury last season. We had scrubs like Ross Cockrell, Dee Delaney and Rashard Robinson getting meaning snaps and looking like shit doing so.
Depth matters. You obviously know this. I'd rather have young guys with room to grow backing up our starters as opposed to 30 year old+ scrubs who have never been worth a damn.
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I'm just anxious to hear all the people who will blame the coaching staff when they get torched. It's inevitable.
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Logan Ryan might playing nickel for us, but that's neither here nor there. We will see how that shakes out.King Bootz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:12 pmNo one is saying they'd expect a rookie corner to see snaps ahead of our top 3 (Logan Ryan is playing safety now).
But you're not blind. All 3 of our top corners missed time due to injury last season. We had scrubs like Ross Cockrell, Dee Delaney and Rashard Robinson getting meaning snaps and looking like shit doing so.
Depth matters. You obviously know this. I'd rather have young guys with room to grow backing up our starters as opposed to 30 year old+ scrubs who have never been worth a damn.
You're not wrong though.
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What are some veteran corners on the market? If we are doing this to save money on Pinion, then we better sign some depth. Logan Ryan might be able to help in some emergency situations there, but we need him to help at safety too.
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I know there’s way more good receivers than cornerbacks. But I find it incredible how much draft capital we have invested in the secondary only to have one guy who is a great cover player.
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I’d honestly rather see Ryan go back to mainly CB for us. We have Winfield, edwards, Neal at safety. Least either way he can play CB when needed.
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CD3. Characterizing the other guys as great cover players is simply incorrect.
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‘Great’ is pretty subjective. CD3 has been burned before too. It’s kind of the job for DBs in todays NFL.
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Dean, SMB, and Ryan are all good enough players to be #2-3 corners on a lot of teams. Ryan is a little slower which is why he plays S now but he's more than capable to do nickel and even play outside without getting completely embarrassed.Heisenberg wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:09 pmI wanted to say one but people always try correcting me to convince themselves otherwise lol, didn’t wanna argue so just said 2. But I agree it’s really only Davis.
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