NCAA Football 2021

[BJJ34]

I don’t value the Playoff committee at all.
Wisconsin is ranked(21 iirc), and we beat the shit out of them.

This committee is only valuing who pays the most.

[uscbucsfan]

I don’t value the Playoff committee at all.
Wisconsin is ranked(21 iirc), and we beat the shit out of them.

Wait, what?

Wisconsin lost by 6 and are on a 4 game winning streak. Penn State is on a 3 game losing streak.

That absolutely makes sense why they are ranked higher.

Also, what angle do you have that Wisconsin pays the committee more than Penn State?

How high were you when you posted this?

[BJJ34]

I don’t value the Playoff committee at all.
Wisconsin is ranked(21 iirc), and we beat the shit out of them.

Wait, what?

Wisconsin lost by 6 and are on a 4 game winning streak. Penn State is on a 3 game losing streak.

That absolutely makes sense why they are ranked higher.

Also, what angle do you have that Wisconsin pays the committee more than Penn State?

How high were you when you posted this?

It was early admittedly and I was frustrated seeing Wisconsin on the board.

Penn State has been dealing with Clifford’s injury. If Levis didn’t leave, they’d still be undefeated(maybe not Ohio State). But if if’s and but’s were candy’s and nuts we’d all have a merry christmas.

[Kress]

So, pretty high.

[Nano]

Hasn't really been discussed here much but this is conference realignment round is going crazy. Texas/OU really set off a powder keg.

Just this round we have:

-Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC

-BYU, UCF, Cincinnati, and Houston to the Big 12

-UAB, Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, North Texas, Rice, and UTSA to the American

-Southern Miss, Old Dominion, Marshall, and JMU to the Sun Belt

-Liberty, Jacksonville St, Sam Houston St, and New Mexico St to C-USA

-Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee St to the MAC (Likely)

The G5 is vastly changing and the CFB landscape will be different in just a couple of years.

[uscbucsfan]

The G5 is vastly changing and the CFB landscape will be different less relevant in just a couple of years.

Fixed.

[Nano]

Less relevant? You're not looking forward to the yearly CFP featuring 3 SEC teams and Ohio St?

[uscbucsfan]

Less relevant? You're not looking forward to the yearly CFP featuring 3 SEC teams and Ohio St?

0 chance G5 gets in after these realignment for a long long time. UCF now Cincinnati have had the best shot, but when P5 conferences grow, there will be less G5/FBS games.

I like that the regular season is so important. I was fine with the BCS system and I'm fine with this system.

Scheduling teams like Murray State when you play in the G5 is a big reason to not get in.

The best teams in the regular season should be playing.

[Nano]

To be fair, I don't think the G5 ever had a chance to begin with. The committee just doesn't value them. Not just at the top of the ranking(regarding Cincy) but the overall ranking. They took out teams like undefeated UTSA and 7-1 Houston, SMU, Louisiana, Coastal, etc, and replaced them with middling P5 teams like Miss St, Minnesota, and NC State.

[uscbucsfan]

To be fair, I don't think the G5 ever had a chance to begin with. The committee just doesn't value them. Not just at the top of the ranking(regarding Cincy) but the overall ranking. They took out teams like undefeated UTSA and 7-1 Houston, SMU, Louisiana, Coastal, etc, and replaced them with middling P5 teams like Miss St, Minnesota, and NC State.

Yes, I think that is fair that they aren't valued.

It's a lower tier of talent.

[Snake]

To be fair, I don't think the G5 ever had a chance to begin with. The committee just doesn't value them. Not just at the top of the ranking(regarding Cincy) but the overall ranking. They took out teams like undefeated UTSA and 7-1 Houston, SMU, Louisiana, Coastal, etc, and replaced them with middling P5 teams like Miss St, Minnesota, and NC State.

Yes, I think that is fair that they aren't valued.

It's a lower tier of talent.

This is pretty much it. It’s like a AAA team expecting to make the MLB playoffs because they played decent MLB teams a few times in the season and won. The résumé just will never measure up when they allocate so many games too shitty opponents.

people still think Ohio State, Alabama etc. beat Cincinnati by a lot if they played them 10 times. Flukes happen but talent is a huge factor.

[Kress]

I agree. "Undefeated" and "7-1" don't mean as much when you look at the level of competition. And yes, I admit that should hold true for Clemson every year. It gained the benefit-of-the-doubt factor that came with beating OSU then winning the title over 'Bama its first time into the playoff. If it had stubbed its toe that first time, I guarantee there would not have been a second, third, etc. given the ACC. Clemson's string of success bought the ACC some time, but I don't know about moving forward.

But I digress. To me, these things come down to the Vegas test. If you had to, right here and right now, bet your house on a neutral field game between Alabama and Cincinnati, straight up, where are you putting your chip? I agree with the committee.

[Crocaneers]

Hasn't really been discussed here much but this is conference realignment round is going crazy. Texas/OU really set off a powder keg.

Just this round we have:

-Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC

-BYU, UCF, Cincinnati, and Houston to the Big 12

-UAB, Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, North Texas, Rice, and UTSA to the American

-Southern Miss, Old Dominion, Marshall, and JMU to the Sun Belt

-Liberty, Jacksonville St, Sam Houston St, and New Mexico St to C-USA

-Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee St to the MAC (Likely)

The G5 is vastly changing and the CFB landscape will be different in just a couple of years.

As a LU fan (and season ticket holder for football and Men's basketball), this is a little exciting .. I don't think independent is long for FBS, and ND (almost ACC as it is), BYU, Army, etc will be forced into a P5

I still see G5 popping into a few spoilers and overall (5 years?) , the 16 playoff system is in play

We'll see

[Cheb]

Hasn't really been discussed here much but this is conference realignment round is going crazy. Texas/OU really set off a powder keg.

Just this round we have:

-Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC

-BYU, UCF, Cincinnati, and Houston to the Big 12

-UAB, Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, North Texas, Rice, and UTSA to the American

-Southern Miss, Old Dominion, Marshall, and JMU to the Sun Belt

-Liberty, Jacksonville St, Sam Houston St, and New Mexico St to C-USA

-Western Kentucky and Middle Tennessee St to the MAC (Likely)

The G5 is vastly changing and the CFB landscape will be different in just a couple of years.

As a LU fan (and season ticket holder for football and Men's basketball), this is a little exciting .. I don't think independent is long for FBS, and ND (almost ACC as it is), BYU, Army, etc will be forced into a P5

I still see G5 popping into a few spoilers and overall (5 years?) , the 16 playoff system is in play

We'll see

The key moving forward is playoff expansion. If we had a 16-or-so team playoff, the Cinderellas would get their shots as would the deserving one-loss teams from top conferences.

It won't happen for probably another decade, but I feel that it's somewhat inevitable.

[Phantom]

The committee has great respect for Cincy. The win at Notre Dame was a really impressive win," Barta said. "When you look at who they've played after that, who else did they beat?"


Barta, who is the athletic director at Iowa, pointed to Cincinnati's last two wins: a seven-point victory over Navy and a 31-12 win over Tulane, two opponents who are a combined 3-13.

[MJW]

Nebraska is playing Ohio State tough so far. Scoreless into the 2nd Quarter.

"Marvin Harrison Jr" just entered the game so football has managed to make me feel super old yet again.

[Snake]

Nebraska is playing Ohio State tough so far. Scoreless into the 2nd Quarter.

"Marvin Harrison Jr" just entered the game so football has managed to make me feel super old yet again.

I’ve realized that in order for Nebraska to beat good teams they need Adrian Martinez to both be superman and not blow it, at the same time. However, the more you ask him to be Superman the more of a liability he is. They’re gonna need some luck today but I’m happy to see them competing. I don’t think there’s any way you can fire frost. Wins and losses don’t tell you the whole story with his team.

Next year is a different story

[Phantom]

Upset alert?

Michigan State 21

Purdue 28

[Cheb]

Upset alert?

Michigan State 21

Purdue 28

Purdue has a reputation as giant-slayers. They surprise top 25 teams on the reg. Not surprised they won, particularly after Michigan State just came off a really big game beating Michigan. One could argue that playing Purdue this week was a case study in what makes a trap game.

Good on Purdue.

[Phantom]

Upset alert?

Michigan State 21

Purdue 28

Purdue has a reputation as giant-slayers. They surprise top 25 teams on the reg. Not surprised they won, particularly after Michigan State just came off a really big game beating Michigan. One could argue that playing Purdue this week was a case study in what makes a trap game.

Good on Purdue.

Same

[mdb1958]

UTSA? How much do they move up?

[BJJ34]

Purdue has a shot at beating 3 top 5 ranked teams at the time they played next week versus OSU.

Their losses are to Notre Dame(good loss), Wisconsin(meh, but a good loss overall). and Minnesota. They have an outside shot at the B1G West title but have lost to the other 2 schools in the competition. Beating Ohio State takes them into a top 10 debate.

Where would you rank them if they beat OSU?

They finish with Northwestern and Indiana. So they shouldn't be worried beyond this weekend.

Also... The B1G East is still up for grabs. Ohio State plays MSU/Michigan, as does Penn State. If MSU/Michigan pull off the upset, but both lose to PSU... This B1G division is crazy.

Each opponents for each team:
MSU: Maryland, OSU,PSU
Michigan: PSU, Maryland,OSU
OSU: Purdue, MSU, Michigan
PSU: Michigan, Rutgers, MSU

Wisconsin probably wins the West... Minnesota and two weaker opponents(Northwestern/Nebraska) while Minnesota has Wisconsin and Iowa to go with a weak Indiana.

[Cheb]

Lots of good football in the conference this year.

As far as who deserves a shot in the title game for the East, the next three weeks should decide that pretty well, although there are certain situations which could get pretty screwy.

While I would love it if Michigan controlled their own destiny moving forward, I think that we need some help, and it all hinges on the Ohio State against Michigan State game in two weeks. If MSU wins, they likely take the division. If Ohio State wins, then that opens things up for us. If we beat Ohio State the following week, I think we take home the crown. Penn State can play the role of spoiler, but even if things get wonky they are still two games behind. From a Michigan perspective, we would need to sweep the final three games, and also have Ohio State beat MSU for us to get into the title game without a fuss. No matter what team represents the East, I think they clap the West for the conference title. And if we do THAT, I think Michigan makes the playoffs, which would obviously be a huge thing for us in recruiting.

Win lose or draw, it should be a great November for college football in our conference. Can't wait.

[Snake]

Scott Frost fired his entire offensive coaching staff.

[Kress]

He also took a $1M pay cut.

[mdb1958]

West Florida #3 in the nation.

[Buc2]

West Florida #3 in the nation.

USF might have a shot of getting ranked again if they'd move down to D2.

[mdb1958]

West Florida #3 in the nation.

USF might have a shot of getting ranked again if they'd move down to D2.

I never paid attention about W Florida, it just seems one day they appeared. Where were they Double AA?
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So they have been around since 1963 but only have had a football program since 2015.

[Buc2]

USF might have a shot of getting ranked again if they'd move down to D2.

I never paid attention about W Florida, it just seems one day they appeared. Where were they Double AA?

They've been in D2 at least 3 years because they won the D2 championship in 2019.

[Nano]

New CFP rankings

1. Georgia 9-0 (@ Tennesee)
2. Alabama 8-1 (Vs New Mexico St)
3. Oregon 8-1 (Vs Washington St)
4. Ohio St 8-1 (Vs 19 Purdue)
5. Cincinnati 9-0 (@ South Florida)
6. Michigan 8-1 (@ Penn St)
7. Michigan St 8-1 (Vs Maryland)
8. Oklahoma 9-0 (@ 13 Baylor)
9. Notre Dame 8-1 (@ Virginia)
10. Oklahoma St 8-1 (Vs TCU)
11. Texas A&M 7-2 (@ 15 Ole Miss)
12. Wake Forest 8-1 (@ 16 NC State)
13. Baylor 7-2 (vs 8 Oklahoma)
14. BYU 8-2
15. Ole Miss 7-2 (Vs 11 Texas A&M)
16. NC State 7-2 (Vs 12 Wake Forest)
17. Auburn 6-3 (Vs Miss St)
18. Wisconsin 6-3 (Vs Northwestern)
19. Purdue 6-3 (@ 4 Ohio St)
20. Iowa 7-2 (Vs Minnesota)
21. Pittsburgh 7-2 (Vs North Carolina)
22. San Diego St 8-1 (Vs Nevada)
23. UTSA 9-0 (Vs Southern Miss)
24. Utah 6-3 (@ Arizona)
25. Arkansas 6-3 (@ LSU)

[Kress]

Poor Cincinnati - they're getting some false hope here. Yes, a team in front of them will lose. But yes, a team or two behind them will jump right on up. They're going to end the season at 5 or 6.

[uscbucsfan]

Poor Cincinnati - they're getting some false hope here. Yes, a team in front of them will lose. But yes, a team or two behind them will jump right on up. They're going to end the season at 5 or 6.

They've looked terrible the last few weeks against some of the worst teams in the country.

I'm hearing less and less complaining about them as time goes on...more "they don't look very good".

But for their fanbase, I'm sure it's terrible.

[mdb1958]

Poor Cincinnati - they're getting some false hope here. Yes, a team in front of them will lose. But yes, a team or two behind them will jump right on up. They're going to end the season at 5 or 6.

They've looked terrible the last few weeks against some of the worst teams in the country.

I'm hearing less and less complaining about them as time goes on...more "they don't look very good".

But for their fanbase, I'm sure it's terrible.

Pizza for everyone was born.

[BJJ34]

Poor Cincinnati - they're getting some false hope here. Yes, a team in front of them will lose. But yes, a team or two behind them will jump right on up. They're going to end the season at 5 or 6.

Oklahoma has to be like WTF…

Cinci, as usc said, has struggled mightily with shit opponents. Their only big win is Notre Dame and we’ve seen how good Notre Dame is in the playoffs the last few years.

B1G may get screwed heavily if both MSU/UM lose to PSU then somehow they beat OSU.

Oregon, how good are they really?

Still unranked:/.

[Snake]

Michigan State coach Mel Tucker is getting an extension that will put him into the top 8 to 10 paid head coaches in the country. A raise is not surprising because he had SEC suitors including LSU. But I’ll be honest I did not expect MSU to shovel out that much money. This is what programs do who want to be taken seriously.