Nobody wants to talk about Cam?

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The NFL: "Football is family."
Player: "Says something that might potentially cost the NFL more money than his talent will earn for it."
The NFL: "There's a dead man on the other end of this phone."

Literally every employer

[Digital_Damage]

Great. This thread will now go for 36 pages and get moved to off topic due to extensive race discussion.

36? You give me too much credit, thinking around 18-20.

[CannonFire]

Great. This thread will now go for 36 pages and get moved to off topic due to extensive race discussion.

I see it as more political than racial, but I get it. A lot of people here won't want to actually discuss what he said, because he's right. That pits one group against itself because while they hate Cam, because he is an idiot and a Panther, they can't bring themselves to agree with him. The other group are people who disagree with him, even though he's right, because they don't like him. The only place to talk about this would be on a political level.

[uscbucsfan]

A lot of people here won't want to actually discuss what he said, because he's right.

I knew there'd be one here...this place always comes through with just the worst takes.

[CannonFire]

A lot of people here won't want to actually discuss what he said, because he's right.

I knew there'd be one here...this place always comes through with just the worst takes.

I could say the same about your post. It's all about perspective. I can not like the guy and still agree with his point, even though it was worded very poorly.

[uscbucsfan]

I knew there'd be one here...this place always comes through with just the worst takes.

I could say the same about your post. It's all about perspective. I can not like the guy and still agree with his point, even though it was worded very poorly.

There's no intelligent argument backing your position. You are either trolling or an idiot...I'd lean towards troll judging from some of your other more extreme posts. It's like you want it to be known that you identify with all the "ist" out there and it's cool, but rarely do you have actual intelligence backing your positions.

Any defense of even the root of what he's saying without the ridiculous choice of words is backing over generalizations, sexism, and/or stereotypes. You don't seem to have the aptitude to debate your extremist trolling into actual logical points.

But please, attempt it...We can even take it to the basement if you are nervous.

[Kress]

I second what the Cock said.

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Kick his ass, Sea bass!

[Primeminister]

I could say the same about your post. It's all about perspective. I can not like the guy and still agree with his point, even though it was worded very poorly.

There's no intelligent argument backing your position. You are either trolling or an idiot...I'd lean towards troll judging from some of your other more extreme posts. It's like you want it to be known that you identify with all the "ist" out there and it's cool, but rarely do you have actual intelligence backing your positions.

Any defense of even the root of what he's saying without the ridiculous choice of words is backing over generalizations, sexism, and/or stereotypes. You don't seem to have the aptitude to debate your extremist trolling into actual logical points.

But please, attempt it...We can even take it to the basement if you are nervous.

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[CannonFire]

I could say the same about your post. It's all about perspective. I can not like the guy and still agree with his point, even though it was worded very poorly.

There's no intelligent argument backing your position. You are either trolling or an idiot...I'd lean towards troll judging from some of your other more extreme posts. It's like you want it to be known that you identify with all the "ist" out there and it's cool, but rarely do you have actual intelligence backing your positions.

Any defense of even the root of what he's saying without the ridiculous choice of words is backing over generalizations, sexism, and/or stereotypes. You don't seem to have the aptitude to debate your extremist trolling into actual logical points.

But please, attempt it...We can even take it to the basement if you are nervous.

Again, it's about perspective, as I can say the same about you.

To me, it's clear his main point is that coming from a nuclear family (+1), with his grandmother, he appreciates how men and women have defined roles and they stick to them. He's not saying women should be obedient and subservient, he's saying that women should be just as attentive their man as men are to their women. To my knowledge, both of his parents worked when he was growing up, so it's not like his father forced his mother to stay home, cook, clean, and take care of the kids.

His point about the girls acting like they're entitled is legitimate. What guy wants to date a girl who thinks that she's the queen of the world and that men are beneath them? He's right. He's also intimating that these are likely girls from single parent families... girls raised by single mothers to not be confident or strong minded, but opinionated and arrogant. He's not talking about women in general. People who think that he is talking about women in general are usually those whom are easily offended by anything and everything that doesn't agree with their utopian beliefs. So, I'm guessing that's people like you.

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There's that manosphere again.

[uscbucsfan]

There's no intelligent argument backing your position. You are either trolling or an idiot...I'd lean towards troll judging from some of your other more extreme posts. It's like you want it to be known that you identify with all the "ist" out there and it's cool, but rarely do you have actual intelligence backing your positions.

Any defense of even the root of what he's saying without the ridiculous choice of words is backing over generalizations, sexism, and/or stereotypes. You don't seem to have the aptitude to debate your extremist trolling into actual logical points.

But please, attempt it...We can even take it to the basement if you are nervous.

Again, it's about perspective, as I can say the same about you.

To me, it's clear his main point is that coming from a nuclear family (+1), with his grandmother, he appreciates how men and women have defined roles and they stick to them. He's not saying women should be obedient and subservient, he's saying that women should be just as attentive their man as men are to their women. To my knowledge, both of his parents worked when he was growing up, so it's not like his father forced his mother to stay home, cook, clean, and take care of the kids.

His point about the girls acting like they're entitled is legitimate. What guy wants to date a girl who thinks that she's the queen of the world and that men are beneath them? He's right. He's also intimating that these are likely girls from single parent families... girls raised by single mothers to not be confident or strong minded, but opinionated and arrogant. He's not talking about women in general. People who think that he is talking about women in general are usually those whom are easily offended by anything and everything that doesn't agree with their utopian beliefs. So, I'm guessing that's people like you.

1. He said that women should know when to be quiet...he even reference the stereotype that women should be able to cook....and finally "don't know how to allow a man to lead"...you really interpret that as women should be just as attentive to men as a man is to a women? They should be equals? That's not at all what he said.
2. And...per usual you jump into generalizations, "girls raised by single mothers are "x".

You've taken what he said and added your own context to soften it. You've actually ignored the context of his language and then manipulated his actual words into something else.

Tell us, do you think he's correct that women or men should fit into an absolute defined role. There aren't asshole/bitches, soft spoken, strong, weak people? Women need to fit in a specific box to be "real women"? If you think women need to fit in the more traditional role, say so, don't try to bullshit us. We all know what that is.

What is this shit about "girls" acting entitled? To what? Be equals? Having an opinion?

It's funny you say " whom are easily offended by anything and everything that doesn't agree with their utopian beliefs" when you say women/men should _____ or black people are _____ or Democrats are all evil. You post about a black and white world, where reality is grey.

To respond by trying to edit out all of the dumb/derogatory shit he said, add your own context, and try to say it's true is an insult to the proposition of attempting an intelligent conversation.

[Kress]

I'm suddenly wondering if I know how to read.

Edit for context: Written before I saw usc's response, in which he pointed out some, but not all, problems with it..

[The Outsider]

God damn that was a full on deconstruction. We should have sent usc to deal with the South after the Civil War.

[Primeminister]

One round KO? Goddamn. I was hoping for a better showing out of fodder’s ass.

[Kress]

God damn that was a full on deconstruction. We should have sent usc to deal with the South after the Civil War.

He really did kill this thread's potential. Slamming the door like that.

Stupid Gamecock.

[MJW]

The NFL: "Football is family."
Player: "Says something that might potentially cost the NFL more money than his talent will earn for it."
The NFL: "There's a dead man on the other end of this phone."

You could apply this to pretty much any corporate entity in the world to be honest.

No argument. But most of them don't run multi-million dollar ad campaigns about how they're a "family."

I had a regional manager who used to do that schtick - "This business is a family" etc. Fucker was the first one to start advertising your job if your numbers started to drop for any reason.

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You could apply this to pretty much any corporate entity in the world to be honest.

No argument. But most of them don't run multi-million dollar ad campaigns about how they're a "family."

I had a regional manager who used to do that schtick - "This business is a family" etc. Fucker was the first one to start advertising your job if your numbers started to drop for any reason.

It's the lie they tell to manufacture a sense of loyalty.

If you want loyalty, get a dog. I work for money.

[Hit55]

This isn’t the first time he’s regurgitated misogynistic comments. As someone who everyone will remember as the guy who wussed out on falling on his own fumble in one of the biggest moments of the most important game of his life, I don’t think he should be talking about who or what is “real”…or shaming women for that matter. Especially when he dresses the way he does and carries a purse around.

[Doctor]

Good example of this: Cam said some "cancellable" shit back in 2017, too. But he was still a Pro Bowl level QB and the Panthers were 11-5, so under rug swept. He was still good math.

And even though Kaepernick's Bullshit number is sky high, if he'd become the Rich Man's Randall Cunningham instead of the new Kordell Stewart, he's still in the NFL as I type this, no matter what he said about America or Castro or Slavery.

Yup. Winning cures everything. But tolerance for baggage falls exponentially as you fall down the depth chart.

[Defense5599]

Good example of this: Cam said some "cancellable" shit back in 2017, too. But he was still a Pro Bowl level QB and the Panthers were 11-5, so under rug swept. He was still good math.

And even though Kaepernick's Bullshit number is sky high, if he'd become the Rich Man's Randall Cunningham instead of the new Kordell Stewart, he's still in the NFL as I type this, no matter what he said about America or Castro or Slavery.

Yup. Winning cures everything. But tolerance for baggage falls exponentially as you fall down the depth chart.

This right here. Why do you think Johnny Manziel flamed out of the league so fast? Aside from his drug problems being a big distraction and coaches not liking him, he wasn't very good.

[Kress]

So, Brady could do what?

Gamble on the Bucs to lose, using unreported box office revenue, through an Al Qaeda betting website that uses that site to fund terrorism but disallows any bets placed by black people or women?

Doesn't sound like a problem to me.

[The Outsider]

So, Brady could do what?

Gamble on the Bucs to lose, using unreported box office revenue, through an Al Qaeda betting website that uses that site to fund terrorism but disallows any bets placed by black people or women?

Doesn't sound like a problem to me.

It could come out that Brady personally funded and perpetrated 9/11 and I'd be pissed if he got suspended.

[Doctor]

Brady is a special case as he's not only the GOAT but he's got a long history of beef with Rogers.

But you could take the league sweet heart Patrick Mahomes and put him in the center of a child porn ring and he'd still be playing week 1.