2023 NFL Coaches Hot Seat Thread

[Phantom]

LOL!

The Atlanta Falcons are expected to pursue Washington Commanders offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy for their HC opening if they fire Arthur Smith.

Via NFL reporter Cam Marino.

[Snake]

Please god…

[Bootz]

The biggest validation of Bienemy is the Chiefs offense this year.

[acmillis]

The biggest validation of Bienemy is the Chiefs offense this year.

Not the Washington Offense this year?

[Snake]

The biggest validation of Bienemy is the Chiefs offense this year.

Not the Washington Offense this year?

Got ‘em. LOL!!

[Bootz]

The biggest validation of Bienemy is the Chiefs offense this year.

Not the Washington Offense this year?

Not in this instance.

The big narrative was Bienemy was helped immensely by Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes and company. He leaves and that offense goes to shit.

Saw a stat, while Bienemy was KC offensive coordinator, that offense was held to 20 or fewer 6 times total in 5 seasons. This season alone its happed 8 times.

And think about. Why in the world would he be getting looks at HC if teams were just going to judge what he did on a bad Washington team?

[acmillis]

Not the Washington Offense this year?

Not in this instance.

The big narrative was Bienemy was helped immensely by Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes and company. He leaves and that offense goes to shit.

Saw a stat, while Bienemy was KC offensive coordinator, that offense was held to 20 or fewer 6 times total in 5 seasons. This season alone its happed 8 times.

And think about. Why in the world would he be getting looks at HC if teams were just going to judge what he did on a bad Washington team?

So he gets no credit or blame whatsoever for WAS lackluster offense this year?

[Bootz]

Not in this instance.

The big narrative was Bienemy was helped immensely by Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes and company. He leaves and that offense goes to shit.

Saw a stat, while Bienemy was KC offensive coordinator, that offense was held to 20 or fewer 6 times total in 5 seasons. This season alone its happed 8 times.

And think about. Why in the world would he be getting looks at HC if teams were just going to judge what he did on a bad Washington team?

So he gets no credit or blame whatsoever for WAS lackluster offense this year?

Sure. Let's go with that. He's been mentioned for 2 HC jobs, 1 that will be open the other that could exclusively because of what he's done in Washington.

[acmillis]

So he gets no credit or blame whatsoever for WAS lackluster offense this year?

Sure. Let's go with that. He's been mentioned for 2 HC jobs, 1 that will be open the other that could exclusively because of what he's done in Washington.

Just trying to figure out which goal post you're moving this time...

[Snake]

Bienemy gets teams hot and bothered until they meet for an interview and do a background check.

[Bootz]

Sure. Let's go with that. He's been mentioned for 2 HC jobs, 1 that will be open the other that could exclusively because of what he's done in Washington.

Just trying to figure out which goal post you're moving this time...

Didn't move any. I made a post, you refuted it, I amended. You want to make this a big thing we can do so, you're clearly itching to.

[Bootz]

Bienemy gets teams hot and bothered until they meet for an interview and do a background check.

Considering he interviewed with Atlanta a few years back you'd think they would already have it on file, no?

[mdb1958]

Sounded like a pretty good post to me.

[Snake]

Bienemy gets teams hot and bothered until they meet for an interview and do a background check.

Considering he interviewed with Atlanta a few years back you'd think they would already have it on file, no?

Another reason why this “report” doesn’t pass the sniff test. Cam Marino is regarded as a fraud with no sources.

[mdb1958]

Not the Washington Offense this year?

Not in this instance.

The big narrative was Bienemy was helped immensely by Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes and company. He leaves and that offense goes to shit.

Saw a stat, while Bienemy was KC offensive coordinator, that offense was held to 20 or fewer 6 times total in 5 seasons. This season alone its happed 8 times.

And think about. Why in the world would he be getting looks at HC if teams were just going to judge what he did on a bad Washington team?

Sounded like a pretty good post to me.

[Snake]

Matt Ryan’s wife shits on Cam Marino’s “report” to the point that he deleted his account for a time.

[Bootz]

Considering he interviewed with Atlanta a few years back you'd think they would already have it on file, no?

Another reason why this “report” doesn’t pass the sniff test. Cam Marino is regarded as a fraud with no sources.

So when you said "please God" you felt then that it was a fraudulent report then?

[Snake]

Another reason why this “report” doesn’t pass the sniff test. Cam Marino is regarded as a fraud with no sources.

So when you said "please God" you felt then that it was a fraudulent report then?

Of course. The point is that I want the Falcons to make a god awful coaching hire. If they want to be stupid and hire an incompetent sex offender like Bieniemy, that would make my day.

[Doctor]

Both. But remember, it's literally his first year there. Yeah you spend the offseason learning your players, what you have, who can do what, but that can only tell you so much vs live action.

He has Sam Howell playing at a much higher level than anyone expected, all be it still bumpy. And a shot at a guy everyone keeps comparing to Mahomes. I think given what Washington has he's done a pretty decent job.

More than anything I think the drop off in KC is very telling. If I'm a defensive HC, he's definitely on my OC shortlist. Even HC should still be in play.

[Snake]

Sam Howell. 20 TDs, 19 INTs, 61.8 grade, 4% turnover worthy passes (28th among starters).

But hey he’s 20th in big time throws.

[Bootz]

Sam Howell. 20 TDs, 19 INTs, 61.8 grade, 4% turnover worthy passes (28th among starters).

But hey he’s 20th in big time throws.

Wait, you would expect more from a 5th round pick in his 2nd year?

[acmillis]

Sam Howell. 20 TDs, 19 INTs, 61.8 grade, 4% turnover worthy passes (28th among starters).

But hey he’s 20th in big time throws.

Wait, you would expect more from a 5th round pick in his 2nd year?

Brock Purdy on line 1...

[Grahamburn]

Matt Ryan’s wife shits on Cam Marino’s “report” to the point that he deleted his account for a time.

Lol. Didn't Ryan leave after that season though? That tweet was in October 2021. Looks like he was right?

[Bootz]

Wait, you would expect more from a 5th round pick in his 2nd year?

Brock Purdy on line 1...

Makes you wonder why people are so eager to tank for top draft picks at QB doesn't it?

[Bootz]

Matt Ryan’s wife shits on Cam Marino’s “report” to the point that he deleted his account for a time.

Lol. Didn't Ryan leave after that season though? That tweet was in October 2021. Looks like he was right?

@Snake is off his game badly as of late. He simultaneously said the guy is a fraud who gives bad information and hoped to God that this somehow happens. And yes you are correct. The Falcons and Matt Ryan divorced a few months later.

[13F11B]

Brock Purdy on line 1...

Makes you wonder why people are so eager to tank for top draft picks at QB doesn't it?

Makes you wonder why people are down on Kyle Trask doesn't it?

[Bootz]

Makes you wonder why people are so eager to tank for top draft picks at QB doesn't it?

Makes you wonder why people are down on Kyle Trask doesn't it?

Not at all. It's easy to see. Why shouldn't they be down on him? Because he's the devil you don't know?

[Backside]

Link?

It was on radio. Scott Reynolds said the same thing. Reynolds actually said he has to win a playoff game or else he's probably fired.

That would really surprise me if it turned out to be true. But I'd be fine with it if it was.

[Grahamburn]

It was on radio. Scott Reynolds said the same thing. Reynolds actually said he has to win a playoff game or else he's probably fired.

That would really surprise me if it turned out to be true. But I'd be fine with it if it was.

Assuming they win this Carolina game and are competitive in the playoff game defined as result still in doubt with under 5:00 left I'd think they keep him.

They lose this week I think he's definitely gone. They get blown out in a playoff game again I think it's 50/50.

[13F11B]

Makes you wonder why people are down on Kyle Trask doesn't it?

Not at all. It's easy to see. Why shouldn't they be down on him? Because he's the devil you don't know?

Brock Purdy was the devil you don't know until the guy in front of him got injured. Then he got a chance to play and surprised people. Right?

You are down on Kyle Trask because he has not gotten a chance to play and he wasn't a high first round pick. Right?

Damn. You can't keep your logic straight.

[13F11B]

That would really surprise me if it turned out to be true. But I'd be fine with it if it was.

Assuming they win this Carolina game and are competitive in the playoff game defined as result still in doubt with under 5:00 left I'd think they keep him.

They lose this week I think he's definitely gone. They get blown out in a playoff game again I think it's 50/50.

I think if the Buccaneers lose this weekend Bowles is fired. I think if they get blown out badly (like last year) Bowles is fired. I think if they lose, but look competitive that there is a 50/50 chance Bowles is fired.

Again, this is the same ownership that fired Tony Dungy and John Gruden. They want Super Bowl trophies. Not division ball caps.

[Bootz]

Not at all. It's easy to see. Why shouldn't they be down on him? Because he's the devil you don't know?

Brock Purdy was the devil you don't know until the guy in front of him got injured. Then he got a chance to play and surprised people. Right?

You are down on Kyle Trask because he has not gotten a chance to play and he wasn't a high first round pick. Right?

Damn. You can't keep your logic straight.

So what's your position exactly? That Trask is a lock to follow in Purdy's footsteps?

[13F11B]

Brock Purdy was the devil you don't know until the guy in front of him got injured. Then he got a chance to play and surprised people. Right?

You are down on Kyle Trask because he has not gotten a chance to play and he wasn't a high first round pick. Right?

Damn. You can't keep your logic straight.

So what's your position exactly? That Trask is a lock to follow in Purdy's footsteps?

No. That is not my position.

You used Purdy as an example to ridicule people who wanted to tank for a top 5 pick to get a QB. I simply extended the logic Trask could end up surprising people if he gets a chance to play. Basically, you have to let a player get time with the 1s against other 1s to know if you really have a player or just another guy.

I have no idea was Trask is. Neither do you. No one thought Purdy was going to be a starter in year one with the 49ers. No one. Players sometimes exceed expectations. Some times, like Jameis Winston, they never live up to them. You have to give them the opportunity to determine that.

[Grahamburn]

Assuming they win this Carolina game and are competitive in the playoff game defined as result still in doubt with under 5:00 left I'd think they keep him.

They lose this week I think he's definitely gone. They get blown out in a playoff game again I think it's 50/50.

I think if the Buccaneers lose this weekend Bowles is fired. I think if they get blown out badly (like last year) Bowles is fired. I think if they lose, but look competitive that there is a 50/50 chance Bowles is fired.

Again, this is the same ownership that fired Tony Dungy and John Gruden. They want Super Bowl trophies. Not division ball caps.

I do feel like the context of and expectations for the season matter some. Nobody gave us a chance in Hell to compete this season. Winning the division with $80M in dead cap and a cast off QB while potentially having a better record than Brady last year has to carry some weight. I'd also like to see what we can do with another year in Canales' offense. I feel like he has been a solid hire when you consider the limitations of the pitch Licht/Bowles were able to give candidates.

Bowles' issue is the expectations have somewhat changed now that the division is in our grasp. Such a poor showing against the Saints followed up by a loss in Carolina would be a nail in the coffin.

But, you have to wonder if he'd have received a mulligan for this season if we'd just gone 5-12 or something?

[Doctor]

Assuming they win this Carolina game and are competitive in the playoff game defined as result still in doubt with under 5:00 left I'd think they keep him.

They lose this week I think he's definitely gone. They get blown out in a playoff game again I think it's 50/50.

I think if the Buccaneers lose this weekend Bowles is fired. I think if they get blown out badly (like last year) Bowles is fired. I think if they lose, but look competitive that there is a 50/50 chance Bowles is fired.

Again, this is the same ownership that fired Tony Dungy and John Gruden. They want Super Bowl trophies. Not division ball caps.

Curious, are they forcing Lichts hand or firing him too?