Teams also don’t win the division back to back years without winning double digit games…and in a 17-game schedule to boot. It’s a testament to how awful our division is. If we are in any other division the last two years, I don’t even think we make the playoffs either year.Bootz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:23 pmBad coaches don't win their division in consecutive years. They actually don't win them at all. "That's a fact"Navybuc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:05 pm
Fans don't want Bowles because he's not a good HC. That's a fact. He has a 41-57 record throughout his career. Take away his first year with the Jets and he's gone 31-51. He has yet to win a playoff game. That is a resume that doesn't scream out good head coach. And don't tout division titles when the NFC South the past two years has been one of the worst divisions in NFL history.
Facts are facts. He has not done a good job in Tampa, and if he were to be fired bc we put up a stinker Monday, I think more than 75% of fans in Tampa would be happy.
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We don't have to worry about this. I have been given assurance from a collection of optimists and realists that Bowles is a very good head coach. Good head coaches have their healthy team trounce on a team on a downward spiral like Philly. Prophets have spoken and I am going to abide by their wise words. Meanwhile, stop being a hater!!1!Navybuc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:05 pmFans don't want Bowles because he's not a good HC. That's a fact. He has a 41-57 record throughout his career. Take away his first year with the Jets and he's gone 31-51. He has yet to win a playoff game. That is a resume that doesn't scream out good head coach. And don't tout division titles when the NFC South the past two years has been one of the worst divisions in NFL history.Bootz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:42 pm The fact that the Glazers allowed Bowles to fire damn near half of the staff that was in place and bring in his own people should ring a bell that the Glazers weren't "forced" into making him their HC. They were and are fully behind the hire.
But because fans don't want Bowles, we have narratives like this.
Facts are facts. He has not done a good job in Tampa, and if he were to be fired bc we put up a stinker Monday, I think more than 75% of fans in Tampa would be happy.
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Make sure you guys lift with your legs when moving them goalposts.
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This is the type of fanbase that would want Bowles fired even if we won the Superbowl this year and would say it's because he can't win the Superbowl again.
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I have, which is why he's proven the haters wrong again and again. And now we've gone from being a dumpster team to winning meaningless game to miss the playoffs to barely making playoffs to only have our asses torn to being in it to winning it to trouncing the NFC champs...
It's just amazing to watch.
It's just amazing to watch.
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What are you saying Boss? We are going to win the game tomorrow because Bowles is a good coach right? Bucs have every possible advantage starting with health and momentum. Should I pray for Hurts to also be out for this game in order for the prestigious Bowles brigade to feel really good about the game tomorrow?Doctor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:45 pm I have, which is why he's proven the haters wrong again and again. And now we've gone from being a dumpster team to winning meaningless game to miss the playoffs to barely making playoffs to only have our asses torn to being in it to winning it to trouncing the NFC champs...
It's just amazing to watch.
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A dumpster team? We just won the SB a couple of years ago and followed it up with 13 wins the year after that. What the fukk are you smoking, dude? This may be the dumbest post of the night.Doctor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:45 pm I have, which is why he's proven the haters wrong again and again. And now we've gone from being a dumpster team to winning meaningless game to miss the playoffs to barely making playoffs to only have our asses torn to being in it to winning it to trouncing the NFC champs...
It's just amazing to watch.
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I’d fire Bowles immediately if Harbaugh was interested. We know he wouldn’t be, but in this fantasy land I would give Harbaugh whatever he needed.Navybuc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:06 pm For argument's sake, let's say the Eagles beat the Bucs tomorrow night by the same score they did in week 3...31-15.
The Glazers call Harbaugh to discuss his interest in the Tampa job and Harbaugh said he would be interested if the price is right.
We know the Glazers don't have a cap when it comes to money.
Do you fire Bowles and bring in Harbaugh? Or do you call Bill or Pete Carroll? Or do you just keep Bowles, a move that prolly wouldn't be popular with the fans?
May not come to that as the Bucs should win tomorrow night...but it's just a food for thought.
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Tell me right now we were not one of the favorites for the top pick. I dare you.Navybuc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:26 pmA dumpster team? We just won the SB a couple of years ago and followed it up with 13 wins the year after that. What the fukk are you smoking, dude? This may be the dumbest post of the night.Doctor wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:45 pm I have, which is why he's proven the haters wrong again and again. And now we've gone from being a dumpster team to winning meaningless game to miss the playoffs to barely making playoffs to only have our asses torn to being in it to winning it to trouncing the NFC champs...
It's just amazing to watch.
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Why Raiders fucking around when they got the answer.
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Chargers should get their pick of the litter.
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The Raiders have never been known for sound decision making. However, if I am not mistaken, the current wording of the Rooney Rule means you have to interview external minority candidates. That's why Leslie Frazier has been making the rounds even though he is an unlikely choice to win a head coaching job.
That said, If they hire anyone but AP the team might revolt. Unless they can land a big name like Harbough, Hoodie or Vrabel, I couldn't imagine hiring anyone else.
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Rob Gronkowksi said on the NFL on FOX pregame show that the Falcons are “coming in hot” for Bill Belichick.
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I'd love it if the Falcons traded for Fields. He's the same guy he has been since he was a rookie. A tease.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:48 amGood news for us. I'd be somewhat worried if they made a play for Ben Johnson and then traded for Fields.
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So you put too much stock in what pundits thought this team would be like and were pleasantly surprised we weren't bottom of the barrel, thanks to possibly 4 HOF type talents on this team along with a solid young core. So now you think we have good coaches and have turned into a bikini wearing cheerleader. However in your heart you are not sure if the coaches are good enough to get this team to play to their ability, which should be good enough to beat an injury ridden Eagles team.
Your faith in Bowles is actually so low, you are concerned we may actually lose tonight and you will have to be the spokesperson for their failures.
If the Bucs win, I will start a thread crediting the coaches and your unwavering (on the surface) faith. If they lose, while being dominated the way they lost in wk 3, I will be looking for your posts on how you will spin this.
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I don't care for him either especially as a pure passer, but he has some tools, and a great OC could potentially utilize those skills. Especially in a place like Atlanta where they have such young promising skill players.Jonny wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:07 amI'd love it if the Falcons traded for Fields. He's the same guy he has been since he was a rookie. A tease.Grahamburn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:48 am
Good news for us. I'd be somewhat worried if they made a play for Ben Johnson and then traded for Fields.
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I have zero faith in BB being able to land a good OC.
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#7 offense in the league is "underachieving"??CannonFire wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:39 amRooney Rule candidate. The guy was in charge of an underachieving high powered offense from just the year before. There's no way anyone thinks he's a serious candidate. Odds are, if the Bucs win tomorrow night, he'll be fired anyway. They won't need to ask for permission.
Doesn't bode well for 3/4 of OCs in this league.
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Not that I'm opposed going in a different direction if we lose today BUT I still like and have faith in Bowles and who knows, with a better cap situation next year, we could see some improvement.
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He's not wrong though.
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The fact that you felt the need to put the word almost in there I think speaks for itself.Miller4Prez64 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:04 pmHe is though. I guarantee almost nobody is going to ask for a HC to be fired after winning a Super Bowl. It’s a completely fictional scenario to create an argument.
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Yeah he is. If we win the SB, nobody is going to argue he should be fired. But not surprising you'd defend him or her.
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The fact that you guys are creating a completely fictional scenario to make people you disagree sound irrational and dunk on them speaks for itself.Doctor wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:17 pmThe fact that you felt the need to put the word almost in there I think speaks for itself.Miller4Prez64 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:04 pm
He is though. I guarantee almost nobody is going to ask for a HC to be fired after winning a Super Bowl. It’s a completely fictional scenario to create an argument.
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This entire message board is fictional scenarios.
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Where will they move the goalposts to next?Jonny wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:30 pmWe don't have to worry about this. I have been given assurance from a collection of optimists and realists that Bowles is a very good head coach. Good head coaches have their healthy team trounce on a team on a downward spiral like Philly. Prophets have spoken and I am going to abide by their wise words. Meanwhile, stop being a hater!!1!Navybuc wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:05 pm
Fans don't want Bowles because he's not a good HC. That's a fact. He has a 41-57 record throughout his career. Take away his first year with the Jets and he's gone 31-51. He has yet to win a playoff game. That is a resume that doesn't scream out good head coach. And don't tout division titles when the NFC South the past two years has been one of the worst divisions in NFL history.
Facts are facts. He has not done a good job in Tampa, and if he were to be fired bc we put up a stinker Monday, I think more than 75% of fans in Tampa would be happy.
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