Rocker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:26 pm
I'll happily take the guy that gives up 4 inches and 40 pounds to Mike Evans and was still able to level him in a highlight reel play we've all seen before. Dude plays hard AF and hopefully infects the DB room with that style of football. This is a plus move and anyone saying otherwise is fishing for votes.
The question has never been what he was capable of. The question what he is capable of now.
Personally, I think it was a good signing. He is still fairly young and has experience, plus he is cheap. If nothing else, he'd be a great backup. He could be a steal. The floor of this deal is low and the ceiling is very high.
Young enough with proven ability in the role he’ll be assigned. Health being the major factor, I’d be lying if I said (recency bias) I’m fully confident in a full season, but I maintain that this was a heck of an addition, and I’m excited to see what he can do in a Todd Bowles scheme.
Rocker wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:26 pm
I'll happily take the guy that gives up 4 inches and 40 pounds to Mike Evans and was still able to level him in a highlight reel play we've all seen before. Dude plays hard AF and hopefully infects the DB room with that style of football. This is a plus move and anyone saying otherwise is fishing for votes.
The question has never been what he was capable of. The question what he is capable of now.
Personally, I think it was a good signing. He is still fairly young and has experience, plus he is cheap. If nothing else, he'd be a great backup. He could be a steal. The floor of this deal is low and the ceiling is very high.
It's lost on a lot of people that the guy who drafted him out of college and coached him for 4 years in Atlanta signed him in Dallas and immediately moved him from the position he was "proven" at because of the range he lost due to his multiple serious lower leg injuries.
The only question has been what does he have left. He was okay in Dallas at a new position but his lack of range showed. My guess is he's going to make his name in Tampa on STs and on the field on 4th & short/goal. The only way he plays a lot down to down is if multiple safeties in front of him get hurt.
The question has never been what he was capable of. The question what he is capable of now.
Personally, I think it was a good signing. He is still fairly young and has experience, plus he is cheap. If nothing else, he'd be a great backup. He could be a steal. The floor of this deal is low and the ceiling is very high.
It's lost on a lot of people that the guy who drafted him out of college and coached him for 4 years in Atlanta signed him in Dallas and immediately moved him from the position he was "proven" at because of the range he lost due to his multiple serious lower leg injuries.
The only question has been what does he have left. He was okay in Dallas at a new position but his lack of range showed. My guess is he's going to make his name in Tampa on STs and on the field on 4th & short/goal. The only way he plays a lot down to down is if multiple safeties in front of him get hurt.
I wouldn't say it's lost on people, especially the people at OBP who made the move. I don't think anyone here expects him to be roaming centerfield or manning up with wideouts all the way down the field. OBP most likely sees him as a guy who can contribute in sub packages. Nickel linebacker, etc. The odd blitz. I think a good comp would be Deone Bucannon in Bowles's Arizona defenses. He has a role to play, but barring injuries it'll probably be a specific one.
I think Logan Ryan is going to be "that guy."
"So let's get to the point
Let's roll another joint
And let's head on down the road
There's somewhere I got to go..."
It's lost on a lot of people that the guy who drafted him out of college and coached him for 4 years in Atlanta signed him in Dallas and immediately moved him from the position he was "proven" at because of the range he lost due to his multiple serious lower leg injuries.
The only question has been what does he have left. He was okay in Dallas at a new position but his lack of range showed. My guess is he's going to make his name in Tampa on STs and on the field on 4th & short/goal. The only way he plays a lot down to down is if multiple safeties in front of him get hurt.
I wouldn't say it's lost on people, especially the people at OBP who made the move. I don't think anyone here expects him to be roaming centerfield or manning up with wideouts all the way down the field. OBP most likely sees him as a guy who can contribute in sub packages. Nickel linebacker, etc. The odd blitz. I think a good comp would be Deone Bucannon in Bowles's Arizona defenses. He has a role to play, but barring injuries it'll probably be a specific one.
I think Logan Ryan is going to be "that guy."
Neal also said he gained about 30 pounds to be a linebacker last year. He is planning to lose that weight to go back to his safety weight. We don't know how that extra bulk affected him. He was playing linebacker in Atlanta 70% of the time or Quinn claims. It's a blurred line between a strong safety in the box and a linebacker.
Quinn then went on to say that the position actually shouldn’t be all that new to Neal, although he might not have been aware that he was already familiar with his “new” role.
“He’s played a number of the positions when he was in Atlanta,” Quinn explained. “We just tricked him and didn’t call him a linebacker. We said ‘You’re a safety.’ I never told him he was a linebacker, but he was a linebacker on 70 percent of the snaps.”
No way in hell Neal gained 30 pounds last season to play LB. He was already playing at about 215 for his career. Not believing this man put on 30 pounds in 1 offseason. Nope.
