Is Matthew Slater a Hall of Famer?
Is Matthew Slater a Hall of Famer?
Matthew Slater, of the New England Patriots.
A WR from UCLA, drafted in the fifth round of the 2008 draft, has a total of 3 offensive touches in his career.
He's a 3x super bowl champion.
He's a 10x pro bowler (5x all pro).
He has 173 tackles in his 206 NFL games. 1 forced fumble.
He's considered the best gunner of his generation. If Hester is the best returner, Slater is his foil.
This exercise begs some questions:
1. Just because you get a lot of accolades (pro bowls), does that mean you're hall worthy?
2. How valuable can a gunner be? Hester got TDs. That's valuable. Is improving field position as a gunner by 2 or 3 more yards on average, even in the same universe insofar as value?
Curious what y'all think.
Oh yeah, some highlights.
A WR from UCLA, drafted in the fifth round of the 2008 draft, has a total of 3 offensive touches in his career.
He's a 3x super bowl champion.
He's a 10x pro bowler (5x all pro).
He has 173 tackles in his 206 NFL games. 1 forced fumble.
He's considered the best gunner of his generation. If Hester is the best returner, Slater is his foil.
This exercise begs some questions:
1. Just because you get a lot of accolades (pro bowls), does that mean you're hall worthy?
2. How valuable can a gunner be? Hester got TDs. That's valuable. Is improving field position as a gunner by 2 or 3 more yards on average, even in the same universe insofar as value?
Curious what y'all think.
Oh yeah, some highlights.
Re: Is Matthew Slater a Hall of Famer?
Can the story of the NFL be told without Matthew Slater? When was the last time you saw a player and said to yourself that he reminds you of Matthew Slater?
Dude is good at his job, don't get me wrong, but a Hall of Famer he is not. If he makes the shortlist of nominees, he should call that a win.
Dude is good at his job, don't get me wrong, but a Hall of Famer he is not. If he makes the shortlist of nominees, he should call that a win.
Re: Is Matthew Slater a Hall of Famer?
Can the story of the NFL be told without [place name here].Cheb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:27 pm Can the story of the NFL be told without Matthew Slater? When was the last time you saw a player and said to yourself that he reminds you of Matthew Slater?
Dude is good at his job, don't get me wrong, but a Hall of Famer he is not. If he makes the shortlist of nominees, he should call that a win.
I think there are guys in the HoF right now that don't fit that description.
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I would say at least 1/4 of them.Buc2 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:29 pmCan the story of the NFL be told without [place name here].Cheb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:27 pm Can the story of the NFL be told without Matthew Slater? When was the last time you saw a player and said to yourself that he reminds you of Matthew Slater?
Dude is good at his job, don't get me wrong, but a Hall of Famer he is not. If he makes the shortlist of nominees, he should call that a win.
I think there are guys in the HoF right now that don't fit that description.
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Agreed. When I imagine a Ken Burns 10 part documentary on football, A good chunk are getting left out
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What is "The story of the NFL"?Cheb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:27 pm Can the story of the NFL be told without Matthew Slater? When was the last time you saw a player and said to yourself that he reminds you of Matthew Slater?
Dude is good at his job, don't get me wrong, but a Hall of Famer he is not. If he makes the shortlist of nominees, he should call that a win.
Like others have said, by a very strict interpretation of that bit of criteria an awful lot of guys would not be in the Hall.
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I don’t pay attention to gunners on other teams. I’m guessing 98% of fans are the same way (and I’m being generous). Coaches and players sure do though.Cheb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:27 pm Can the story of the NFL be told without Matthew Slater? When was the last time you saw a player and said to yourself that he reminds you of Matthew Slater?
Dude is good at his job, don't get me wrong, but a Hall of Famer he is not. If he makes the shortlist of nominees, he should call that a win.
Because of that I won’t pretend to be qualified to answer about this dude and how he compares to his peers...
BUT anyone that is the best, or an all time great, at their job should recognized as such. If that’s this dude, then yep he should be in the Hall of Fame.
Now how do they make room for specialists when other deserving 3-4 down players get snubbed each year? Not my problem to figure out.
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This.Terry Tate wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:36 pmWhat is "The story of the NFL"?Cheb wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:27 pm Can the story of the NFL be told without Matthew Slater? When was the last time you saw a player and said to yourself that he reminds you of Matthew Slater?
Dude is good at his job, don't get me wrong, but a Hall of Famer he is not. If he makes the shortlist of nominees, he should call that a win.
Like others have said, by a very strict interpretation of that bit of criteria an awful lot of guys would not be in the Hall.
Richard Seymour, a HoF player… ehhh. The “story” can certainly be told without any mention of him.
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We let in kickers don't we?
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WHO!?!? Never heard of him. Not even in passing. He got 3 Rings because he was a Patriot not the other way around.
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You’re an idiot, I’m sorry.BearLandBucFan wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:19 pm WHO!?!? Never heard of him. Not even in passing. He got 3 Rings because he was a Patriot not the other way around.
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Don't be sorry. Everyone is wrong some of the time.Snake wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:20 pmYou’re an idiot, I’m sorry.BearLandBucFan wrote: ↑Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:19 pm WHO!?!? Never heard of him. Not even in passing. He got 3 Rings because he was a Patriot not the other way around.
Re: Is Matthew Slater a Hall of Famer?
Well, I mean he was in the pro bowl quite a but and all pro. The main question isn't if he was a big impact, but if he defined the position. Think Sapp / Barber.
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I think he probably did define it. He’s the most accomplished gunner in history.
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I voted no because I respectfully disagree. Steve Tasker was that guy. But he's never going to get close because nobody cared back then (and nobody cares about teams that don't win titles, etc, etc.)
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Re: Is Matthew Slater a Hall of Famer?
This is the correct answer in regards to best gunner...but maybe the Patriots help him get in.