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Will Tom Brady Retire?

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Monero wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:05 pm So when a player retires does the money prorated go immediately against the cap?
From reading that article it depends on when they retire and when the team 'officially' removes them from the roster. If the Buccaneers let Brady retire prior to June 2nd the balance of his bonus would all hit next season. if they carry him until after June 2nd then his bonus would hit next season (2022) and the season after (2023). In addition, any guaranteed money for 2022 would count against the cap (those are usually based on a player being on the roster in March). This is why Brees and the Saints renegotiated the salary and waited until June 11th.
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13F11B wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:11 pm
Monero wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:05 pm So when a player retires does the money prorated go immediately against the cap?
From reading that article it depends on when they retire and when the team 'officially' removes them from the roster. If the Buccaneers let Brady retire prior to June 2nd the balance of his bonus would all hit next season. if they carry him until after June 2nd then his bonus would hit next season (2022) and the season after (2023). In addition, any guaranteed money for 2022 would count against the cap (those are usually based on a player being on the roster in March). This is why Brees and the Saints renegotiated the salary and waited until June 11th.
Ah I see, thanks. Then chances are Brady and Licht have been working out a way to make his retirement be as painless as possible for the Bucs. I fully expect a formal announcement early in the week.
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Monero wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:16 pm
13F11B wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:11 pm

From reading that article it depends on when they retire and when the team 'officially' removes them from the roster. If the Buccaneers let Brady retire prior to June 2nd the balance of his bonus would all hit next season. if they carry him until after June 2nd then his bonus would hit next season (2022) and the season after (2023). In addition, any guaranteed money for 2022 would count against the cap (those are usually based on a player being on the roster in March). This is why Brees and the Saints renegotiated the salary and waited until June 11th.
Ah I see, thanks. Then chances are Brady and Licht have been working out a way to make his retirement be as painless as possible for the Bucs. I fully expect a formal announcement early in the week.
That is my guess based on all the smoke in the room.
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If Brady does retire: what about the Bucs getting a familiar face in Winston?

- Winton is a fa and should not cost much
- he is more mature
- he knows Ba's system
- he has sat behind and learnt from one of the best in Brees
- Winston is highly motivated to prove his self
- etc

Personally, I would love this. The probability of this happening is about 8% but it is not 0%.
How would you guys feel about this?
Do you think the front office will at least consider this as an option?
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Bahamian:bucfan wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:56 pm If Brady does retire: what about the Bucs getting a familiar face in Winston?

- Winton is a fa and should not cost much
- he is more mature
- he knows Ba's system
- he has sat behind and learnt from one of the best in Brees
- Winston is highly motivated to prove his self
- etc

Personally, I would love this. The probability of this happening is about 8% but it is not 0%.
How would you guys feel about this?
Do you think the front office will at least consider this as an option?
You gotta be freakin kidding me
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If Winston ever puts on pewter again I'm fucking out, and Mods, hold me to that. Ban my IP. Because I should never even consider putting myself back in that abusive relationship. I'd rather spend every Sunday at Chucky Fucking Cheese from now until the Rapture.
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Crocaneers wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:02 am
Snake wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:47 am I mean they kind of grew up without him already. 14, 12, 10 right?
For me personally, it's the time he's needed most.
From my personal experience as well.
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MJW wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:20 pm If Winston ever puts on pewter again I'm fucking out, and Mods, hold me to that. Ban my IP. Because I should never even consider putting myself back in that abusive relationship. I'd rather spend every Sunday at Chucky Fucking Cheese from now until the Rapture.
Ok! Completely understood!
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Bahamian:bucfan wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:56 pm If Brady does retire: what about the Bucs getting a familiar face in Winston?

- Winton is a fa and should not cost much
- he is more mature
- he knows Ba's system
- he has sat behind and learnt from one of the best in Brees
- Winston is highly motivated to prove his self
- etc

Personally, I would love this. The probability of this happening is about 8% but it is not 0%.
How would you guys feel about this?
Do you think the front office will at least consider this as an option?
We already know he isn't a QB that is going to go all the way, I'd rather start Trask, the devil I don't know could be better than the one we do know
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It's official. Tom Brady is retiring.




Thank you for everything Tom.
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His malaise in recent weeks makes sense.
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So... @BJJ34 This works right? Shefty is the guy ...

It was time for Brady to walk off on his terms . .. and now the pundits will run

It gives Tampa time to adjust draft readiness (and potential trades) . We'll see
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I really like going out without a stupid mememe retirement tour.
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Oh no! We suck again.













Someone had to say it. :D
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Well we're back to being the Butts. That was a fun 2 years. Thanks Tom!
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Oh Boy….
Well let’s see what JL and BA and the rest of the geniuses at 1BP can envision for 2022.

Tom made everyone want to play at the highest level.

Who’s coming in here to be THAT GUY?
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NFCS still wide open
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Crocaneers wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:37 pm So... @BJJ34 This works right? Shefty is the guy ...

It was time for Brady to walk off on his terms . .. and now the pundits will run

It gives Tampa time to adjust draft readiness (and potential trades) . We'll see
I’m skeptical still… he said he would take time, then not even a week later?
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Say hello to Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Jared Goff, Mike White or that guy from Saints..


Maybe Derek Carr?

Bucs get one of them.. GUARANTEED
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Feel bad for Evans.. this late in his career and having to start from scratch with his QB. Looking like another 1k season is going to be that much more difficult.
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It's official, Brady has retired.

I'm legit sad. He's been part of my entire NFL life dating back to the late 90s when I first started watching football as a kid. This must've been what old timers felt when Montana hung them up.

His last pass in the NFL is a 50 yard TD bomb over the best corner in the game.

I'm in total shock right now.
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Phantom wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:57 pm Say hello to Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Jared Goff, Mike White or that guy from Saints..


Maybe Derek Carr?

Bucs get one of them.. GUARANTEED
Do we even have the cap space? Does Brady’s money come off the books now?
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BJJ34 wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:01 pm
Phantom wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:57 pm Say hello to Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Jared Goff, Mike White or that guy from Saints..


Maybe Derek Carr?

Bucs get one of them.. GUARANTEED
Do we even have the cap space? Does Brady’s money come off the books now?

I have no idea
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Phantom wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:57 pm Say hello to Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Jared Goff, Mike White or that guy from Saints..


Maybe Derek Carr?

Bucs get one of them.. GUARANTEED

I see that I'm not the only one pondering this!
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Bahamian:bucfan wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:13 pm
Phantom wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:57 pm Say hello to Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Jared Goff, Mike White or that guy from Saints..


Maybe Derek Carr?

Bucs get one of them.. GUARANTEED

I see that I'm not the only one pondering this!
Lots of stupid motherfuckers on here...
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this board will have a complete meltdown if JW comes back..
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Bahamian:bucfan wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:13 pm
Phantom wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:57 pm Say hello to Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Jared Goff, Mike White or that guy from Saints..


Maybe Derek Carr?

Bucs get one of them.. GUARANTEED

I see that I'm not the only one pondering this!
Yeah but I’m not Winston fan.


Here to 40/40!
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How can I possibly go back to watching terrible Bucs QB play?

And who will be the favorite in the NFC South now?
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Bahamian:bucfan wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:13 pm
Phantom wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:57 pm Say hello to Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Jared Goff, Mike White or that guy from Saints..


Maybe Derek Carr?

Bucs get one of them.. GUARANTEED

I see that I'm not the only one pondering this!
The Bucs resigning Winston is like your good friend getting back together with their abuse ex. They say they've changed, but we all know that ain't likely.

If the Bucs bring Winston back, I'm done.
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BJJ34 wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:47 pm
Crocaneers wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:37 pm So... @BJJ34 This works right? Shefty is the guy ...

It was time for Brady to walk off on his terms . .. and now the pundits will run

It gives Tampa time to adjust draft readiness (and potential trades) . We'll see
I’m skeptical still… he said he would take time, then not even a week later?
You're something else .. how about HIS company ?

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Ugh, thought we had one more year to make a run at it. Thanks to Tom for bringing us the best 2 years of Bucs football ever.
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Both Auman and Stroud are saying that according to the team/Arians they haven't been notified of his retirement. Not saying it isn't true, but if that's how he handled it he can go fuck himself. All the talk about not wanting it to be a distraction and all of that shit and he notifies ESPN before the team?

I'm hoping this is just someone in his camp that ran their mouth or something, because at best this was clumsily handled.
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The Outsider wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:29 pm Both Auman and Stroud are saying that according to the team/Arians they haven't been notified of his retirement. Not saying it isn't true, but if that's how he handled it he can go fuck himself. All the talk about not wanting it to be a distraction and all of that shit and he notifies ESPN before the team?

I'm hoping this is just someone in his camp that ran their mouth or something, because at best this was clumsily handles.
Brady earned the right to handle his retirement however he wants.
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Monero wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:32 pm
The Outsider wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:29 pm Both Auman and Stroud are saying that according to the team/Arians they haven't been notified of his retirement. Not saying it isn't true, but if that's how he handled it he can go fuck himself. All the talk about not wanting it to be a distraction and all of that shit and he notifies ESPN before the team?

I'm hoping this is just someone in his camp that ran their mouth or something, because at best this was clumsily handles.
Brady earned the right to handle his retirement however he wants.
Maybe so, but Brady said himself that he had the team to consider. Now it's a shitshow.
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Somehow, this makes the Bowles zero blitz call even worse.
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