The Official 2025 Off-Season Thread

[Grahamburn]

Someone post the returns of recent WR trades again. It’s sobering.

These deals rarely seem to work out for the team getting the player.

[Bootz]

Someone post the returns of recent WR trades again. It’s sobering.

These deals rarely seem to work out for the team getting the player.

Eagles & AJ Brown would beg to differ.

[Grahamburn]

These deals rarely seem to work out for the team getting the player.

Eagles & AJ Brown would beg to differ.

There are always outliers.

[Bootz]

Eagles & AJ Brown would beg to differ.

There are always outliers.

Forget outliers, who are these teams that the trades didn't work out for? And what parameters are you using the determine who the trade worked out for?

[Grahamburn]

There are always outliers.

Forget outliers, who are these teams that the trades didn't work out for? And what parameters are you using the determine who the trade worked out for?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/584596 ... wr-trades/

That article was after the Davante Adams trade. Amari Cooper has since been traded again to Buffalo and that was a bust although you can call him a success in Dallas of course. Those were all in-season trades though. Off-season I can remember Tyreek. I guess depends which side of the fence you sit on with that one? He's productive, but is clearly a headcase and they aren't winning. They should be trying to move him.

A.J. Brown is a win for the Eagles. Diggs to the Bills. Win. Diggs to the Texans. Fail. Am I forgetting other clear wins for the trading team getting the player and paying the contract?

[Bootz]

Forget outliers, who are these teams that the trades didn't work out for? And what parameters are you using the determine who the trade worked out for?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/584596 ... wr-trades/

That article was after the Davante Adams trade. Amari Cooper has since been traded again to Buffalo and that was a bust although you can call him a success in Dallas of course. Those were all in-season trades though. Off-season I can remember Tyreek. I guess depends which side of the fence you sit on with that one? He's productive, but is clearly a headcase and they aren't winning. They should be trying to move him.

A.J. Brown is a win for the Eagles. Diggs to the Bills. Win. Diggs to the Texans. Fail. Am I forgetting other clear wins for the trading team getting the player and paying the contract?

Seems DJ Moore and the Bears like where things are going. They did extend him to a sizable contract.

The Dolphins are a different offense without Hill on the field. I'd say they are more than happy with him. Headcase? In what way? You have a clear bias against him because of his extramarital activities.

Amari Cooper has been traded so many times, does it even really count?

[Grahamburn]

[Lordnlkon]

That’s got to really piss him off knowing he could be making that money.

[Backside]

Trying to upgrade from Britt instead of being complacent and bringing him back. They are just making everyone happy.


Wouldn’t give up the first, but a second or something for Hendrickson and a big ass contract would be intriguing. If you can get a good CB with the first rounder and add Trey could really have something going on defense. Would be an all-in move though. And I won’t be bad if it doesn’t happen either.

Restructures are guaranteed at some point. So I’d guess Licht is still trying to wheel and deal and we don’t yet know how much he’ll need to manipulate cap space.

[Grahamburn]

Does anyone even know where Trey would play in this defense? I guess he’s replacing Logan Hall? He’s not playing OLB. Don’t know that he’d be AS effective, and hence not worth the price tag, in this defense.

These edge rusher contract numbers are big. Reports are he has turned down $30M AAV already from the bengals.

[Miller4Prez64]

https://www.nfl.com/news/new-seahawks-d ... bowl-there

Now this is the offseason content I’m here for.

[mdb1958]

Miller you got people staring at the wall.

[Grahamburn]

Bills’ GM Brandon Beane says Larry Ogunjobi and Michael Hoecht will face 6-game suspensions due to violating the league’s PED policy
Beane says the Bills knew about Hoecht but did not know about Ogunjobi when they agreed to terms with him #Bills

[Phantom]

The #Buccaneers have created $19M in cap space after restructuring OT Tristan Wirfs’ contract, per @gregauman


Surprised no one post this?

[Phantom]

[Snake]

One year deal.

[Bootz]

One year deal.

He's gonna blow up and it's gonna turn into a shiny new 4 year deal for a 31 year old edge rusher.

[Doctor]

I don't think you're wrong.

I'm thinking 4 year, $80M, with $50 guaranteed.

Which would still be a bargain.

[Bootz]

You'd do great as an NFLPA rep. You seem to love teams doing huge favors for players instead of doing what's best for the team.

[Doctor]

So letting go of a 31 yo pass rusher who averaged 12.5 sacks in 5 of the last 6 years, coming off a great year will be what's best for the team?

Bold move.

[Bootz]

You expecting him to somehow defeat father time and get better as he ages?

What's best for the team would be ideally drafting someone behind him who can step in when he goes. But again that would take forward thinking that this team does not possess.

[Grahamburn]

You expecting him to somehow defeat father time and get better as he ages?

What's best for the team would be ideally drafting someone behind him who can step in when he goes. But again that would take forward thinking that this team does not possess.

The Shaq Barrett trajectory without the long term deal at the end would be ideal.

[Phantom]

Rodgers to the rescue?

Congratulations Steelers

Aaron Rodgers is "getting close" to signing a deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Via Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reporter Gerry Dulac.


Edit: wrong thread sorry

[Bootz]

You expecting him to somehow defeat father time and get better as he ages?

What's best for the team would be ideally drafting someone behind him who can step in when he goes. But again that would take forward thinking that this team does not possess.

The Shaq Barrett trajectory without the long term deal at the end would be ideal.

The Shaq Barrett trajectory is about 3 years behind with Reddick.

I'm also not sure that's the trajectory you would want. It was all downhill from the start. Shaq had 19.5 sacks his 1st year here under a 1 year $4mil. Over the next 4 years, we went on to pay him over $65mil and he rewarded us with 25.5 sacks over those 4 years. We did him a favor by making him rich.

[mdb1958]

You could offer a solution Bootz.

[Bootz]

You could offer a solution Bootz.

Ideally, it involves being honest.

Is Chris Braswell viewed as someone who can become a consistent contributor or not? That answers appears to be no, as we've signed Reddick and also re-up Anthony Nelson.

So let's assume Braswell is not seen as an answer. Then draft wise, hopefully we are targeting someone who we think will develop into a consistent contributor. Let him develop behind Reddick this year and hand-off next year.

[Doctor]

Guy, in what world is there no room for Braswell to be a consistent contributor but also have room others? Do you know how many snaps there are to go around and packages we have a game?

In fact, we should still be looking for yet another high level rotational piece behind Yaya too. They have to at least beat out Nelly.

[mdb1958]

You could offer a solution Bootz.

Ideally, it involves being honest.

Is Chris Braswell viewed as someone who can become a consistent contributor or not? That answers appears to be no, as we've signed Reddick and also re-up Anthony Nelson.

So let's assume Braswell is not seen as an answer. Then draft wise, hopefully we are targeting someone who we think will develop into a consistent contributor. Let him develop behind Reddick this year and hand-off next year.

It seems more and more these college kids come out as buttered up biscuits and then you got to look all over again.

[mdb1958]

You could offer a solution Bootz.

Ideally, it involves being honest.

Is Chris Braswell viewed as someone who can become a consistent contributor or not? That answers appears to be no, as we've signed Reddick and also re-up Anthony Nelson.

So let's assume Braswell is not seen as an answer. Then draft wise, hopefully we are targeting someone who we think will develop into a consistent contributor. Let him develop behind Reddick this year and hand-off next year.

It seems more and more these college kids come out as buttered up biscuits and then you got to look all over again.