Baker Mayfield: PAID

[CannonFire]

Moore is an excellent receiver, but London has elite upside. I think his floor is Moore's ceiling.

How does that work? That would imply Moore could never have a better season than London. Which has not been the case.

You and I apparently have a different opinion... that's fine. For some reason, you seem to think London has peaked (I guess), despite only playing 2 seasons with QB's who don't belong in the NFL. I understand you hate everything Atlanta, unconditionally... apparently, but you do realize that over their first 2 seasons, Moore and London's numbers are fairly similar, right?

[Babeinbucland]

So many industry people really rally around him

[kaimaru]

Winston has a big arm. Why don't we bring him back? If I recall, players liked him as well.

3 years 25 million?

[kaimaru]

How does that work? That would imply Moore could never have a better season than London. Which has not been the case.

You and I apparently have a different opinion... that's fine. For some reason, you seem to think London has peaked (I guess), despite only playing 2 seasons with QB's who don't belong in the NFL. I understand you hate everything Atlanta, unconditionally... apparently, but you do realize that over their first 2 seasons, Moore and London's numbers are fairly similar, right?

Moore's second year with Kyle Allen throwing him the ball almost the entire year. Yes they both had bad QBs, but Moore still beat him in every receiving metric and had nearly 30% more total receiving yards. Again with Kyle Allen throwing him the ball. They ran almost identical 40s (4.42 Moore/4.45 London). Do you think London will suddenly get faster like 4.33? What is this "potential" that makes him clearly better than Moore? I'm just curious

[mdb1958]

I think our Moore has electric qualities.

[Selmon Rules]

Winston has a big arm. Why don't we bring him back? If I recall, players liked him as well.

Don't you put that evil on me

[Doctor]

If CHI drafts a QB and then tries to trade Fields, any team would be hella dumb to offer anything more than peanuts at that point.

That's... that's not how it works....
It just takes two. Two teams that like him. Then it's not peanuts it's fair market value (as determined by those two teams).

[Doctor]

[CannonFire]

Winston has a big arm. Why don't we bring him back? If I recall, players liked him as well.

3 years 25 million?

Move the decimal over one spot to the left and I'm ok with that.

[Doctor]

Oh, cause CF thinks Baker sucks. I get it. Funny.

[Obsolete]

Oh, cause CF thinks Baker sucks. I get it. Funny.

I think he meant that about Winston.

[Grahamburn]

When Baker says “keep his guys” I think he means more than just Evans. He wants Tristan Wirfs to get his too.

I think it ultimately ends up being a 5 year deal. Lower cap hits the first two years. Backload the higher AAV years allowing for restructures and extensions if things are going well. Maybe a higher total value than Daniel Jones with less guaranteed money.

[real bucs fan]

I meant pick a QB and trade him during the draft. I think it would be best to see if Washington and NE would be willing to pay to move up to #1 and I am sure someone will be stupid enough to, and then pick Marvin Harrison Jr. Would immediately make Fields better and they would get extra draft picks. If they want to use 9 as a back up plan, they can afford to do that. They can even use the new draft capital at 9 for that QB. I personally wouldn't pass on MHJ if I was still on the fence about my QB and not completely out

That would completely crush any trade value CHI would receive in return for Fields.
As of today, the GM is saying, "we might keep him." While almost nobody believes the CHI GM, at least there is doubt, so that any interested team would meet the CHi trade demands for Fields.
If CHI drafts a QB and then tries to trade Fields, any team would be hella dumb to offer anything more than peanuts at that point.

I’m sure the same was said of Baker.


People always under estimate landing spot with QBs. Mayfield was put in a situation to fail and had to find a good situation to succeed. I’d bet the same will happen with Fields, just needs a capable offensive coach and capable players around him and he can do everything Lamar Jackson is doing, the talent is that legit.

[Babeinbucland]

When do y’all think they will have a deal done?

[Doctor]

How can you listen to him and not think him a franchise guy. He can take us there.

[acmillis]

How can you listen to him and not think him a franchise guy. He can take us there.

…I’ve seen him play

[Snake]

How can you listen to him and not think him a franchise guy. He can take us there.

Because talking is not playing football?

[Doctor]

Have you? When he's on he's good and he hasn't even peaked. We were year 1 and pretty mid in the redzone. Now with one of the best redzone OCs going into year 2ish.

I'm not putting him in Mahomes level but come on. You can definitely win with a guy like Baker. You'd need to have a very very good alternative to get me to move from what feels like a great bet.

The Baker Bucs are here y'all. Get use to it.

[Grahamburn]

Think I’ll head into Advanced Auto Parts for something tomorrow.

[Sdbucs]

Have you? When he's on he's good and he hasn't even peaked. We were year 1 and pretty mid in the redzone. Now with one of the best redzone OCs going into year 2ish.

I'm not putting him in Mahomes level but come on. You can definitely win with a guy like Baker. You'd need to have a very very good alternative to get me to move from what feels like a great bet.

The Baker Bucs are here y'all. Get use to it.

You can win 7 to 10 games with a guy like Baker and will never win a superbowl unless you give him an elite defense

[Grahamburn]

Have you? When he's on he's good and he hasn't even peaked. We were year 1 and pretty mid in the redzone. Now with one of the best redzone OCs going into year 2ish.

I'm not putting him in Mahomes level but come on. You can definitely win with a guy like Baker. You'd need to have a very very good alternative to get me to move from what feels like a great bet.

The Baker Bucs are here y'all. Get use to it.

You can win 7 to 10 games with a guy like Baker and will never win a superbowl unless you give him an elite defense

So you’re saying there’s a chance?

[Doctor]

Have you? When he's on he's good and he hasn't even peaked. We were year 1 and pretty mid in the redzone. Now with one of the best redzone OCs going into year 2ish.

I'm not putting him in Mahomes level but come on. You can definitely win with a guy like Baker. You'd need to have a very very good alternative to get me to move from what feels like a great bet.

The Baker Bucs are here y'all. Get use to it.

You can win 7 to 10 games with a guy like Baker and will never win a superbowl unless you give him an elite defense

So a typical champion.

[Cheb]

Have you? When he's on he's good and he hasn't even peaked. We were year 1 and pretty mid in the redzone. Now with one of the best redzone OCs going into year 2ish.

I'm not putting him in Mahomes level but come on. You can definitely win with a guy like Baker. You'd need to have a very very good alternative to get me to move from what feels like a great bet.

The Baker Bucs are here y'all. Get use to it.

You can win 7 to 10 games with a guy like Baker and will never win a superbowl unless you give him an elite defense

This kind of doomsinging was plausible last offseason when everyone expected us to win four games, but three weeks ago we were just one score away from the NFC championship WITH Baker as the guy. If we didn't allow 21 straight points to Detroit, we might have made that championship, and from there who knows. And that was in his first year here.

Baker can be the guy. One could argue he's already been the guy. And baring off field catastrophe, I expect we are going to pay him to be the guy here shortly.

Get used to it my dude.

[Backside]

How does that work? That would imply Moore could never have a better season than London. Which has not been the case.

You and I apparently have a different opinion... that's fine. For some reason, you seem to think London has peaked (I guess), despite only playing 2 seasons with QB's who don't belong in the NFL. I understand you hate everything Atlanta, unconditionally... apparently, but you do realize that over their first 2 seasons, Moore and London's numbers are fairly similar, right?

I think he has peaked? No… you said his floor was Moore’s ceiling. Floor, to me, means as bad as he could or will ever be. Which you say is better than Moore has been or ever will be (ceiling).

Maybe floor and ceiling mean something different to you

[acmillis]

The ceiling is the roof

[Grahamburn]

Talks expected to heat up next week.

[Phantom]

Acmillis will be disappointed.

[Phantom]

Honestly, if the Bucs defense is as strong as it was in 2002, Baker Mayfield will take the Bucs to the Super Bowl.

[Phantom]

When does the free agency period start? Can the Bucs negotiate with Mayfield before the free agency.

[Bootz]

When does the free agency period start? Can the Bucs negotiate with Mayfield before the free agency.

FA starts mid March. The Bucs are free to negotiate with all of their upcoming free agents.

[Phantom]

When does the free agency period start? Can the Bucs negotiate with Mayfield before the free agency.

FA starts mid March. The Bucs are free to negotiate with all of their upcoming free agents.

Thanks, Bootz

[Bootz]

FA starts mid March. The Bucs are free to negotiate with all of their upcoming free agents.

Thanks, Bootz

You're welcome. I hope we can get a few of those deals done before FA starts. Namely AWJ & Evans. I don't think Baker will have that hot of a market.

[Phantom]

Thanks, Bootz

You're welcome. I hope we can get a few of those deals done before FA starts. Namely AWJ & Evans. I don't think Baker will have that hot of a market.

AWJ is our priority

[Phantom]

The only team I could see signing Mayfield is Pittsburgh, but I heard they want Tannehill lol.

[Grahamburn]

Thanks, Bootz

You're welcome. I hope we can get a few of those deals done before FA starts. Namely AWJ & Evans. I don't think Baker will have that hot of a market.

I imagine all 3 of them as well as Lavonte and Chase McLaughlin will be offered some kind of contract in the next 3 weeks prior to the tag deadline and open free agency period. Whoever doesn't sign has a greater chance of getting the tag prior to March 5th. Especially out of the "big 3.' Wouldn't surprise me if ultimately it's used on Chase though as the others all sign extensions.