Four Verticals wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:58 pm
Navybuc wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 8:20 pm
But why stick with Baker? He’s not gonna get us anywhere. It’s worth going with a new qb and trying to go in a different direction. If it doesn’t work out, so be it. But you have to try. What we have in there now is a guy who would be a backup qb on a lot of teams. He’s not getting us to the next level. That’s clear as day.
I'm not looking to stick with Mayfield. I'm looking to get better. My point is that beyond the first couple of QBs who'll be gone by pick 5 likely, who do the Bucs draft who's definitively better than Mayfield.....in all likelihood? I'd say Williams and Maye. Beyond that I think it's a hope and/or we can all come up with flaws in their game/personality/makeup, etc.
There were flaws for guys like Hurts, Lamar Jackson, and of course, Brock Purdy. Hell, there were flaws for Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. I remember Mel Kiper saying those two are too inaccurate to make it in the NFL. Then we heard about how players like Josh Rosen and Trey Lance had no flaws and were sure-things. I hate to say it, but sometimes picking the right QB is like "The Dating Game." There are two ugly girls and a knockout and you hope you picked the prom queen. You've just got to do your homework, but most importantly, build around the guy. Look how the Texans have drafted well around C.J. Stroud. Tank Dell was a 3rd round pick and he's playing better than any 1st round pick selected. That dude was a steal.
If you're looking for names, you can start with Bo Nix, Michael Penix, Jayden Daniels, and J.J. McCarthy. Personally, I like Nix the most. I think he's the safest pick of guys who may be there. Daniels is a boom or bust. I've seen inconsistencies from Penix that worry me, like last week. And McCarthy is a lot like Purdy in that he's a great manager and perfect if you have great pieces around him, but not a guy who is going to beat you on his own. But that's just me. Everyone has their opinion.
The bottom line you have to rebuild this thing, and it starts with the QB. It's a pretty deep class coming out. Last year, I think the only guy I think we could have taken at our spot was Levis, and the jury is still out there. But it's more talented this year.