Mike Evans: Final Season in Tampa?

[Primeminister]

Per Mike Evans, they have been working on the deal for over a year. This isn't some last minute issue. They are simply that far apart either in money, guarantees, and/or length of the contract

If that's true, then this looks even worse for Evans' and his team. Rule #1 in this business should always be secure the bag. Far apart on a deal? Holdout. Make your demands known. He's going into this season with his future unprotected.

He's going to end up like LVD returning to this team on a 1 year deal for much less than market value.

Mike has always been too loyal for his own good

[Grahamburn]

If that's true, then this looks even worse for Evans' and his team. Rule #1 in this business should always be secure the bag. Far apart on a deal? Holdout. Make your demands known. He's going into this season with his future unprotected.

He's going to end up like LVD returning to this team on a 1 year deal for much less than market value.

Mike has always been too loyal for his own good

The Bucs have paid him over $110M.

[Grahamburn]

That’s currently the 8th most money ever paid to a WR.

I want him to finish his career here, but it’s smart for the Bucs to play this out and not extend him right now if he’s asking for the Kupp deal.

[mdb1958]

The Gage deal hurt us.

Caused by the Antonio Brown deal.

Caused by Brady thinking what we had wouldnt cut the mustard.

[BucsNBills]

We need to get this deal done. The amount of people saying "Evans to the Chiefs" in the game thread on Reddit was beyond sickening.

I simply can't handle a reality where Evans is playing for the Chiefs. That is for another, much darker and sadistic, multiverse timeline.

[Bootz]

[That’s currently the 8th most money ever paid to a WR.

That should be completely irrelevant to the Bucs and Evans. In fact that would be a terrible negotiating pinpoint for both sides. If Evans' team brought that up, "only 7 guys at the WR position have earned more than Evans", the Bucs counter would be "wow, so we've paid you handsomely." If the Bucs brought that up, "we've paid you the 8th highest career salary in league history" Evans' team would question whether they believe they don't think they should pay him well anymore and (if they are smart) ask for a trade to a team that will pay him.

[Bootz]

Mike has always been too loyal for his own good

The Bucs have paid him over $110M.

I'm not sure where you got that figure from, but it's actually a little under $96mil. Link below.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/ea ... /all-time/


But career earnings have never been a determining factor in how much a guy gets on his new deal. Major reason is the cap rises annually, sans Covid year. But why should Mike Evans or his team or the Bucs even care that he earned more money playing pro football than Chris Carter & Jerry Rice combined?

[Grahamburn]

[That’s currently the 8th most money ever paid to a WR.

That should be completely irrelevant to the Bucs and Evans. In fact that would be a terrible negotiating pinpoint for both sides. If Evans' team brought that up, "only 7 guys at the WR position have earned more than Evans", the Bucs counter would be "wow, so we've paid you handsomely." If the Bucs brought that up, "we've paid you the 8th highest career salary in league history" Evans' team would question whether they believe they don't think they should pay him well anymore and (if they are smart) ask for a trade to a team that will pay him.

Who’s using it in negotiations? I was responding to a post stating Mike has been too loyal to the Bucs, when in fact they’ve paid him handsomely.

I got the figure from spotrac. I think they’re already including his $$ from this season.

[Bootz]

That should be completely irrelevant to the Bucs and Evans. In fact that would be a terrible negotiating pinpoint for both sides. If Evans' team brought that up, "only 7 guys at the WR position have earned more than Evans", the Bucs counter would be "wow, so we've paid you handsomely." If the Bucs brought that up, "we've paid you the 8th highest career salary in league history" Evans' team would question whether they believe they don't think they should pay him well anymore and (if they are smart) ask for a trade to a team that will pay him.

Who’s using it in negotiations? I was responding to a post stating Mike has been too loyal to the Bucs, when in fact they’ve paid him handsomely.

I got the figure from spotrac. I think they’re already including his $$ from this season.

That's the point. What they've paid him previously is completely irrelevant. There's no stopping point to paying for quality talent at any level.

And I posted the link to Spotrac. It's at $95.8mil. Click the link.

[Grahamburn]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-b ... -earnings/

It says $110M there. :shrug:

My point was they’ve paid him exactly like the top end WR he is. So, how has he been “too loyal” to the Bucs?

But, I know who I’m arguing with so I’ll stop wasting my time.

[Bootz]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-b ... -earnings/

It says $110M there. :shrug:

My point was they’ve paid him exactly like the top end WR he is. So, how has he been “too loyal” to the Bucs?

But, I know who I’m arguing with so I’ll stop wasting my time.

#1 $14.5mil of that has yet to be paid :shrug:

#2 He's fallen far behind the going rate for WRs now. That mentality is why Davante Adams is in Las Vegas, Tyreek Hill is in Miami, AJ Brown is in Philly and DeAndre Hopkins is on yet another team. Their original organizations didn't want to pony up so they asked to go elsewhere.

#3 I wasn't the one who said he was too loyal. The fact that you feel the need to make this an "argument" and that you make it personal says a lot more about you than it does me.

[Naismith]

Very short sighted of the team to keep Evans this year. They should have already traded him and they should be currently shopping him. There is very little value in having him on the team in 2023.

[MJW]

Very short sighted of the team to keep Evans this year. They should have already traded him and they should be currently shopping him. There is very little value in having him on the team in 2023.

We'll leave the long-term thinking to other franchises, thank you. We're trying to go from 3 to 5 wins because yOu pLaY tO wIN DuH gAMe.

[BucsNBills]

Very short sighted of the team to keep Evans this year. They should have already traded him and they should be currently shopping him. There is very little value in having him on the team in 2023.

We'll leave the long-term thinking to other franchises, thank you. We're trying to go from 3 to 5 wins because yOu pLaY tO wIN DuH gAMe.

Yeap, who needs extra draft capital and Caleb Williams when we can let Evans walk for free and win too many games to get Williams?

[MJW]

We'll leave the long-term thinking to other franchises, thank you. We're trying to go from 3 to 5 wins because yOu pLaY tO wIN DuH gAMe.

Yeap, who needs extra draft capital and Caleb Williams when we can let Evans walk for free and win too many games to get Williams?

Exactly.

This season is going to be horrible, we're going to fritter away what trade value our veterans have, and then we're going to win juuuuuust a little too much for Caleb OR Drake Maye. Everyone will get fired, of course. And a year of all our lives will have been wasted.

Oh, but I forgot, Canales is Bill Walsh and we know something about Baker Mayfield the last 3 teams he played for didn't. So, Superbowl.

[Digital_Damage]

Sounds like the honeymoon phase is over with the FO and the Gboyz. Reports are starting that the GBoyz have no intention of resigning many franchise names over the next two seasons due to personal finance issues.

[Snake]

Sounds like the honeymoon phase is over with the FO and the Gboyz. Reports are starting that the GBoyz have no intention of resigning many franchise names over the next two seasons due to personal finance issues.

If they start to cheap out on payroll, it gets real hard to care from a fan perspective.

[GreatTimes]

Sounds like the honeymoon phase is over with the FO and the Gboyz. Reports are starting that the GBoyz have no intention of resigning many franchise names over the next two seasons due to personal finance issues.

If this is true, then the Glazers should put the team up for sale.

[Doctor]

"If I ain't taking you over Watson or Stafford, you're trash."
-MJW

[Central_Buc]

Sounds like the honeymoon phase is over with the FO and the Gboyz. Reports are starting that the GBoyz have no intention of resigning many franchise names over the next two seasons due to personal finance issues.

If this is true, then the Glazers should put the team up for sale.

Notice though he says just for the next two seasons. What they should do is put Man U up for sale. The Glazers are hated in Europe anyway so probably a good time to let go.

[Phantom]

I don’t think Bucs will trade during this season, if they do, they’re on hook for $9.2 million in dead money

[TonyLip]

I’ll bet Mike hates dreaming about those dropped Tuddy Passes over and over for awhile….
Maybe
Maybe not.

[Grahamburn]

Yeap, who needs extra draft capital and Caleb Williams when we can let Evans walk for free and win too many games to get Williams?

Exactly.

This season is going to be horrible, we're going to fritter away what trade value our veterans have, and then we're going to win juuuuuust a little too much for Caleb OR Drake Maye. Everyone will get fired, of course. And a year of all our lives will have been wasted.

Oh, but I forgot, Canales is Bill Walsh and we know something about Baker Mayfield the last 3 teams he played for didn't. So, Superbowl.

Vikings’ fans are ready to tank now. Should we rather be them today?

[Buc2]

Exactly.

This season is going to be horrible, we're going to fritter away what trade value our veterans have, and then we're going to win juuuuuust a little too much for Caleb OR Drake Maye. Everyone will get fired, of course. And a year of all our lives will have been wasted.

Oh, but I forgot, Canales is Bill Walsh and we know something about Baker Mayfield the last 3 teams he played for didn't. So, Superbowl.

Vikings’ fans are ready to tank now. Should we rather be them today?

I can't speak for others, but as much as I sometimes bitch and moan about the possibility of winning ourselves out of a decent Day One pick, come game day, I'm always screaming for a win.

[Doctor]

That's because...

*enter Herm Edwards*

[kaimaru]

Sounds like the honeymoon phase is over with the FO and the Gboyz. Reports are starting that the GBoyz have no intention of resigning many franchise names over the next two seasons due to personal finance issues.

I couldn't find a single site, much less reputable reporting this

[kaimaru]

Sounds like the honeymoon phase is over with the FO and the Gboyz. Reports are starting that the GBoyz have no intention of resigning many franchise names over the next two seasons due to personal finance issues.

If this is true, then the Glazers should put the team up for sale.

They are literally up for sale. The stocks wend down for ManU specifically because there were rumors they are going to pull them back off the market

[Grahamburn]

Sounds like the honeymoon phase is over with the FO and the Gboyz. Reports are starting that the GBoyz have no intention of resigning many franchise names over the next two seasons due to personal finance issues.

I couldn't find a single site, much less reputable reporting this

They signed multiple players heading into this season while spending as much as they possibly could.

[Bootz]

Sounds like the honeymoon phase is over with the FO and the Gboyz. Reports are starting that the GBoyz have no intention of resigning many franchise names over the next two seasons due to personal finance issues.

I couldn't find a single site, much less reputable reporting this

Look who wrote it. DD has history of lying.

[Buc2]

One year ago today...

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