The Official 2023 NFL Off-Season Thread

[Buc2]

Better than making him drive in.

Now that is what I call a glass-half-full reply.

[Bootz]

Titans showing their gratitude for Taylor Lewan.

Absolutely disgusting

[mdb1958]

You dont leave the locker full of crap when the season ends - mold?

[Snake]

Did he want it shipped back in Louis bags or something??

My guess, they try to reach him multiple times, and he was salty and didn’t answer the calls.

[Bootz]

QBs should go 1-3

[Buc2]

Did he want it shipped back in Louis bags or something??

My guess, they try to reach him multiple times, and he was salty and didn’t answer the calls.

Could be. Regardless, it's a bad look for their organization. They could have looked better had they set all that stuff aside and let him know they would give it all to a charity auction if he didn't make other arrangements.

[Phantom]

Or maybe it was a joke?

[Cheb]

Titans showing their gratitude for Taylor Lewan.

Every team I was ever on made you clean out your locker at the end of the year, regardless of if you were "safe" or not, to avoid this kinda stuff.

Still not a great look by Tennessee. Big Yikes energy.

[Grahamburn]

Maybe it’s just me but that equipment looks WAY too small for Taylor Lewan.

Those shoulder pads are shoes are small.

I think it’s a joke.

[acmillis]

Titans showing their gratitude for Taylor Lewan.

Every team I was ever on made you clean out your locker at the end of the year, regardless of if you were "safe" or not, to avoid this kinda stuff.

Still not a great look by Tennessee. Big Yikes energy.

At least he was mature about it and didn't take to social media with sarcastic comments...oh wait...

[_MB_]

Every team I was ever on made you clean out your locker at the end of the year, regardless of if you were "safe" or not, to avoid this kinda stuff.

Still not a great look by Tennessee. Big Yikes energy.

At least he was mature about it and didn't take to social media with sarcastic comments...oh wait...

What are they going to do? Cut him?

[BucsNBills]

Oh snap!

[Snake]

Trash

[BucsNBills]

I mean that has to cost him draft position big time, right??

[mdb1958]

Trash

That's harsh, making a bad decision sounds better.

[Snake]

Trash

That's harsh, making a bad decision sounds better.

I’ve never made a decision that was adjacent to someone getting killed due to my poor judgment.

Must be a me problem!

[Bootz]

Maybe this will cause him to drop to the draft positioning he should've been at in the 1st place. I don't see top 5 talent with him.

[Bootz]

[GreatTimes]

I mean that has to cost him draft position big time, right??

Understatement.

[MJW]

I mean that has to cost him draft position big time, right??

Understatement.

Respectfully disagree on all counts.

Prison Time? Probably not. Suspension? Possibly, but not necessarily, and probably not for long. Can he still destroy blocking schemes and be the engine of destruction for an even front defense? I would say so, and I think many GMs would say so which is what matters.

Ergo, his draft status will be fine. Nobody who wants a top-tier 3T is going to pass on him and let someone else get the guy because he acted a fool. That's simply something he'll have to live with. I hope he's the kind of guy it'll be hard for, because it should be. But ultimately the idea that a GM will say, "Well, this isn't the kind of high character gentleman we want representing this franchise?" LOL.

[MJW]

"This is Hannibal Lecter. He eats people."
ALL NFL COACHES EVER: "Will he possibly help my team win one more game, thus increasing the odds I keep my $8 mil a year job?"
"Possibly."
ALL NFL COACHES EVER EXCEPT TONY DUNGY: "We don't want to turn our backs on this young man. Let's bring him in and 'help' him."
TONY DUNGY: "What they said, but I'll try to seem conflicted in public."

[Phantom]

John Fox joins the Detroit Lions as a senior defensive consultant.

[GreatTimes]

La'el Collins originally signed with the Cowboys in 2015 as an undrafted rookie with first-round talent. He dropped all the way out of the draft because he was accused of a crime that if I remember correctly was dismissed. Jalen Carter could find himself in the same boat.
(On a side note, Collins is being released by the cowboys, might make a cheap addition to the Bucs)

[_MB_]

La'el Collins originally signed with the Cowboys in 2015 as an undrafted rookie with first-round talent. He dropped all the way out of the draft because he was accused of a crime that if I remember correctly was dismissed. Jalen Carter could find himself in the same boat.
(On a side note, Collins is being released by the cowboys, might make a cheap addition to the Bucs)

Collins dropped for a video of him smoking weed through a gas mask.

[Bootz]

La'el Collins originally signed with the Cowboys in 2015 as an undrafted rookie with first-round talent. He dropped all the way out of the draft because he was accused of a crime that if I remember correctly was dismissed. Jalen Carter could find himself in the same boat.
(On a side note, Collins is being released by the cowboys, might make a cheap addition to the Bucs)

Collins doesn't play for the Cowboys. He's with the Bengals now, signed a 3 year deal last year. There's been no word of the Bengals releasing him either.

[Bootz]

La'el Collins originally signed with the Cowboys in 2015 as an undrafted rookie with first-round talent. He dropped all the way out of the draft because he was accused of a crime that if I remember correctly was dismissed. Jalen Carter could find himself in the same boat.
(On a side note, Collins is being released by the cowboys, might make a cheap addition to the Bucs)

Collins dropped for a video of him smoking weed through a gas mask.

That was Laremy Tunsil 7 years ago, same draft. Collins was a person of interest in a shooting that resulted in a pregnant woman dying.

[_MB_]

Collins dropped for a video of him smoking weed through a gas mask.

That was Laremy Tunsil 7 years ago, same draft. Collins was a person of interest in a shooting that resulted in a pregnant woman dying.

Quite right.

[kaimaru]

Understatement.

Respectfully disagree on all counts.

Prison Time? Probably not. Suspension? Possibly, but not necessarily, and probably not for long. Can he still destroy blocking schemes and be the engine of destruction for an even front defense? I would say so, and I think many GMs would say so which is what matters.

Ergo, his draft status will be fine. Nobody who wants a top-tier 3T is going to pass on him and let someone else get the guy because he acted a fool. That's simply something he'll have to live with. I hope he's the kind of guy it'll be hard for, because it should be. But ultimately the idea that a GM will say, "Well, this isn't the kind of high character gentleman we want representing this franchise?" LOL.

Zero chance of suspension. Goodell has said many times that whatever happens before someone is drafted, they don't care.

[_MB_]

Respectfully disagree on all counts.

Prison Time? Probably not. Suspension? Possibly, but not necessarily, and probably not for long. Can he still destroy blocking schemes and be the engine of destruction for an even front defense? I would say so, and I think many GMs would say so which is what matters.

Ergo, his draft status will be fine. Nobody who wants a top-tier 3T is going to pass on him and let someone else get the guy because he acted a fool. That's simply something he'll have to live with. I hope he's the kind of guy it'll be hard for, because it should be. But ultimately the idea that a GM will say, "Well, this isn't the kind of high character gentleman we want representing this franchise?" LOL.

Zero chance of suspension. Goodell has said many times that whatever happens before someone is drafted, they don't care.

Laughs in punt God

[Doctor]

Crazy as it seems, I don't think his stock takes much of a hit.

Yes, it was immature and dangerous, but the only thing that matters is if you believe this is a one off, learn from tragedy event, or likely a repeat offense due to character. Unless you have serious concerns it's the latter, then I don't think it changes things much.

We talk about high character and all that, and there is some merit to it, but most teams know and are prepared to deal with some immaturity and character issues that are commonly found in young, immature adults made recently rich. You balance that against what they bring to the field.

You think we didn't know about ABs issues? We sure as hell did. But we weight the risks of it vs the on field rewards and made a business decision that paid off handsomely.

[Grahamburn]

Not sure how you call it street racing either when one of the vehicles is a Ford Expedition.

[GreatTimes]

Oh snap!

Could the charges against Jalen Carter be upgraded to include Vehicular Manslaughter for street racing that resulted in 2 deaths?
"In Georgia, vehicular manslaughter is also called vehicular homicide. Vehicular homicide is a serious charge in Georgia. Vehicular manslaughter occurs when an individual unlawfully and unintentionally causes the death of another individual while operating a motor vehicle."
“The evidence demonstrated that both vehicles switched between lanes, drove in the center turn lane, drove in opposite lanes of travel, overtook other motorists, and drove at high rates of speed, in an apparent attempt to outdistance each other,” the Athens-Clarke County Police Department said in a release Wednesday morning."

[Doctor]

I think you would be hard pressed to say the sober guy in the other car that wasn't involved in the accident is the "cause" for why a drunk street racer killed two people.

Some prosecutors may try it, but it would literally be just because it's Carter and a possible high-exposure case.

[GreatTimes]

I think you would be hard pressed to say the sober guy in the other car that wasn't involved in the accident is the "cause" for why a drunk street racer killed two people.

Some prosecutors may try it, but it would literally be just because it's Carter and a possible high-exposure case.

If Carter had not participated in the street racing there likely would not have been 2 people killed in the other car.

[GreatTimes]

Not sure how you call it street racing either when one of the vehicles is a Ford Expedition.

It was reported that the police determined that they exceeded 104 mph. A Ford Expedition can do that, but the handling isn't the best.